water

Halobitt · 05-08-2007, 09:01 PM

Does anyone actually type with the hyphens? I find it quite difficult and unusual even when trying to do it? Makes me wonder why the average non-domainer would try it out.

VURG · 05-08-2007, 09:11 PM

Cultural Bias,

Those who are used to visiting a lot of sites with hyphens will be interested in domains with hyphens. Those who are not don't. Some types of business people like MLM are also a lot more interested in hyphens. Countries with different symbols that the normal 26 letter alphabet are also more familiar with hyphens.

I've had some arab traffic with some of my "--" domains. When I visited the 520 domains for potential sites there were many developed German and Asian sites.

Hyphens also often get priority over letters in directory positions.
(e.g. A-A.com ranked higher on directory than AA.com and hence more directory based traffic.)

htmlindex · 05-09-2007, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by VURG

I've had some arab traffic with some of my "--" domains. When I visited the 520 domains for potential sites there were many developed German and Asian sites.

Yeah, I've noticed that the Germans like there L-L-L.extention names, what's the deal with those guys?

GoPC · 05-09-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by dagersh

So may I ask how much it gets? I picked up h-mo and hm-o recently, just for the hell of it, and even they're getting a little (not very much, really).

It's at Parked, this last period I had 32 Uniques and 6 clicks. Counting April's earnings, another click or two and I'll have the domain paid for.

Not a cash cow, by any means, but enough to sustain itself in an arguably "unknown" character configuration.

As I said, I can't explain it, it just gets type-in.

It's kind of fun to speculate though

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/307779-l-l-l-dot-com-values.html

GoPC

dag · 05-09-2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by GoPC

It's at Parked, this last period I had 32 Uniques and 6 clicks. Counting April's earnings, another click or two and I'll have the domain paid for.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

Not a cash cow, by any means, but enough to sustain itself in an arguably "unknown" character configuration.

As I said, I can't explain it, it just gets type-in.

It's kind of fun to speculate though

GoPC

That's about what my V-O-L.com is getting in terms of traffic, minus the clicks. Guess I need to find better keywords...

Yesterday I went on an L-L-L.com binge and registered all these (which I am promising myself will be the end)...including all the remaining _-T-V.com names I could find:

A-G-U.COM
A-U-X.COM
C-U-R.COM
E-N-V.COM
H-A-X.COM
J-O-X.COM
L-I-X.COM
L-V-N.COM (Las Vegas, Nevada)
M-O-X.COM
N-A-Y.COM
N-L-V.COM
P-T-V.COM
Q-T-V.COM
S-T-V.COM
T-O-X.COM
Y-T-V.COM
X-X-I.com (good one for the 21st century, I figured)
Z-T-V.COM

And then there was this, which I couldn't resist -- similar to my "J-RK.com" that I registered a couple weeks back:

H-LL.COM

equity78 · 05-09-2007, 10:44 AM

I had U-t-v.com get 1 unique 6 clicks at parked made $2.30 I-r-l gets traffic along with X-t-v again not a ton but enough to make it interesting . Plus if someone needs the domain it is good for SEO. H-M-O is excellent IMO plus I see Parked allowed it to be a 1 click lander

GoPC · 05-09-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

H-M-O is excellent IMO plus I see Parked allowed it to be a 1 click lander

Yeah, that blew my mind. Parked rarely allows a one click lander.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

My favs are H-M-O, P-T-O, C-D-W, and M-X-C ("Most Xtreme Competition" - Great Show!)

Good idea on the -T-V post above

GoPC

SiGuy · 05-09-2007, 03:48 PM

I got a couple that must have dropped since the original post:

A-E-H.COM
A-A-R.COM

I will add some NP$ - once i've read how to do that...

Thanks everyone - much appreciated !

Toker · 05-09-2007, 04:06 PM

I wonder about the Number ones like 0-2-1.COM ?
Actually I have a few like A-Y-E.com

And I also wonder what single -s like d-og.com, an-t.com, f-oo.com,
oh-o.com, oo-1.com, 1-69.com, 1-of.com are worth?

And m-oo.com which is parked get's alot of hits.

sibaong · 05-16-2007, 05:49 AM

May 2007 :
T-M-T .com (SEDO) $1000

GoPC · 05-16-2007, 09:27 AM

Sold or ASKING? $1K sale for our little niche would be pretty cool

GoPC

ginge133 · 05-16-2007, 09:36 AM

Its says its sold on the sedo homepage GoPC.

GoPC · 05-16-2007, 09:51 AM

Wow... nice

My friends, I think we have confirmation then, yeah? Our niche IS a winner!!!

GoPC

dag · 05-16-2007, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by GoPC

Wow... nice

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

My friends, I think we have confirmation then, yeah? Our niche IS a winner!!!

GoPC

Now we just need someone to buy up all the rest of them...

Any takers?

buckshotdots · 05-16-2007, 11:46 AM

Just grabbed E-A-U.COM - water in french. Since water is more expensive than oil

GOing to try some seo on this one.

gary-
tried to give rep but wouldnt let me. Thanks for the list!

SDX · 05-16-2007, 01:56 PM

Great thread!

...
Anyone have a new list?

Mike · 05-16-2007, 02:03 PM

um....the only thing that makes me

is that "-" hyphens are never good for a domain, why would that suddenly change? Especially considering that it's not just one "-" but 2!!!! ... maybe i'm not getting it, but why would the unwritten rules of domaining suddenly change?

GoPC · 05-16-2007, 02:14 PM

"Never Good for a domain"? What about Jack-O-Lantern.com?

I think partly the answer is:

1 - Stop thinking like a DOMAINER and start thinking like an end user... What brandable domains is LEFT for a reasonable price? Can you reasonable expect to be able to buy hmo.com? In the end, these guys are looking for something reasonable relevant to their needs but will make the effort to BRAND whatever they choose. So... WHY NOT brand h-m-o.com for a fraction of the money?

2 - Search engines DON'T SEE THE HYPHENS. h-m-o.com has just as much opportunity to find itself on the top of the Google Heap as hmo.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

The great many businesses using the internet as another medium by which to share their message aren't interested or even partially aware of "intrinsic value" or "natural traffic". Their Marketing Directors say "Brand the Name and they will come" It's the MANTRA of Business. "Repetition is the Key to Success" Phone number a minumum of THREE times per add, brand name a minimum of 6 times per add.

The only direct navigation they think about is telling their customers where to go... not wondering what a potential visitor might type to find them.

3rd and Finally - Foreign traffic seems to use an abundance of dashes in their domains, searches and digital conversations. Far more than even a fraction of US traffic.

All of this leads to one thing... those of us with solid two dashers are GETTING TRAFFIC to verying degrees and much of that traffic is paying off. The recent sale shows that there is end-user interest as well.

It may be a fad, it may be a trend. Who knows for sure? But that is, at the essence, what we do......... SPECULATE.

GoPC

dag · 05-16-2007, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by GoPC

"Never Good for a domain"? What about Jack-O-Lantern.com?

I think partly the answer is:

1 - Stop thinking like a DOMAINER and start thinking like an end user... What brandable domains is LEFT for a reasonable price? Can you reasonable expect to be able to buy hmo.com? In the end, these guys are looking for something reasonable relevant to their needs but will make the effort to BRAND whatever they choose. So... WHY NOT brand h-m-o.com for a fraction of the money?

2 - Search engines DON'T SEE THE HYPHENS. h-m-o.com has just as much opportunity to find itself on the top of the Google Heap as hmo.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

The great many businesses using the internet as another medium by which to share their message aren't interested or even partially aware of "intrinsic value" or "natural traffic". Their Marketing Directors say "Brand the Name and they will come" It's the MANTRA of Business. "Repetition is the Key to Success" Phone number a minumum of THREE times per add, brand name a minimum of 6 times per add.

The only direct navigation they think about is telling their customers where to go... not wondering what a potential visitor might type to find them.

3rd and Finally - Foreign traffic seems to use an abundance of dashes in their domains, searches and digital conversations. Far more than even a fraction of US traffic.

All of this leads to one thing... those of us with solid two dashers are GETTING TRAFFIC to verying degrees and much of that traffic is paying off. The recent sale shows that there is end-user interest as well.

It may be a fad, it may be a trend. Who knows for sure? But that is, at the essence, what we do......... SPECULATE.

GoPC

Good post!

VURG · 05-16-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by IntelBank.com

um....the only thing that makes me

is that "-" hyphens are never good for a domain, why would that suddenly change? Especially considering that it's not just one "-" but 2!!!! ... maybe i'm not getting it, but why would the unwritten rules of domaining suddenly change?

Why do people pay $1000+ for a L-L.com and yet aren't willing to pay reg fee for a L-L-L.com?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

Why do people pay $80+ for a LLL.biz and $200+ for a premium letter LLL.biz and aren't willing to pay reg fee for a premium letter L-L-L.com despite the fact that there are more endusers user using L-L-L.com?

I compare this to real estate. Where I live (Western Australia), nobody wanted land in the middle of country towns 5 years ago meaning you could get land for $5000AU. Since the real estate boom, land in the middle of country towns has become hot property pushing some blocks over 30 times the value. In my opinion, L-L-L.com has just been overlooked for a long time and therefore is overdue for a market correction.

Chris. · 05-16-2007, 05:17 PM

GoPC any chance you can take a screen shot of h-m-o.com stats and post it here please i have a theory which i need to solve.

Mike · 05-16-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by VURG

Why do people pay $1000+ for a L-L.com and yet aren't willing to pay reg fee for a L-L-L.com?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

Why do people pay $80+ for a LLL.biz and $200+ for a premium letter LLL.biz and aren't willing to pay reg fee for a premium letter L-L-L.com despite the fact that there are more endusers user using L-L-L.com?

I compare this to real estate. Where I live (Western Australia), nobody wanted land in the middle of country towns 5 years ago meaning you could get land for $5000AU. Since the real estate boom, land in the middle of country towns has become hot property pushing some blocks over 30 times the value. In my opinion, L-L-L.com has just been overlooked for a long time and therefore is overdue for a market correction.

Oh, i'm not disagreeing, not the least bit, i just find myself a bit surprised as i haven't even wasted a single thought on that,...YET!

shame on me, i went way too much with the domainer head and lost said head in the process.

Kudos to whomever had the vision and foresight to get into these combos early, i clearly missed the train on that one!

GoPC · 05-16-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by BuyandSwap

GoPC any chance you can take a screen shot of h-m-o.com stats and post it here please i have a theory which i need to solve.

Theory? I have to admit, I am curious...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779

The last pay period that ended ysterday. 18 uniques and only 2 clicks

Still, $.72 cents. I guess the fact it was posted in this thread bumped the traffic a bit the period prior. Anyway, here you have it...

http://www.regspace.net/h-m-o.jpg

GoPC

EDIT - Don't know if it helps, but it appears the domain has only 1 visitor and no clicks today.

Chris. · 05-16-2007, 06:34 PM

Thanks GoPc i let you know if the theory works the only way to test it is to
see a one and half weeks of stats from a domain in my theory list.

it may not even work lol but thanks for the stats, time will tell i guess.

Chris

GoPC · 05-16-2007, 06:43 PM

Oh come one! LOL!!!

You big tease... what is your theory SUPPOSED to do? It won't be a "prediction" unless you put it on the line BEFORE the data comes in.

GoPC

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05-09-2007, 03:48 PM	#58 (permalink)
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Toker NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago & Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 290	I wonder about the Number ones like 0-2-1.COM ? Actually I have a few like A-Y-E.com And I also wonder what single -s like d-og.com, an-t.com, f-oo.com, oh-o.com, oo-1.com, 1-69.com, 1-of.com are worth? And m-oo.com which is parked get's alot of hits. Last edited by Toker; 05-09-2007 at 04:12 PM.

05-16-2007, 05:49 AM	#60 (permalink)
sibaong NamePros Fansâ„¢ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NamePros Posts: 2,736	May 2007 : T-M-T .com (SEDO) $1000 __________________ Charity Ribbons - Together, We Create A Special World!

05-16-2007, 09:27 AM	THREAD STARTER #61 (permalink)
GoPC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,633	Sold or ASKING? $1K sale for our little niche would be pretty cool GoPC __________________ Just wondering why folks tell you your domain isn't worth reg fee then pay SNAP $70 for your domain...

05-08-2007, 09:01 PM	#51 (permalink)
Halobitt NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 853	Does anyone actually type with the hyphens? I find it quite difficult and unusual even when trying to do it? Makes me wonder why the average non-domainer would try it out.

05-08-2007, 09:11 PM	#52 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	Cultural Bias, Those who are used to visiting a lot of sites with hyphens will be interested in domains with hyphens. Those who are not don't. Some types of business people like MLM are also a lot more interested in hyphens. Countries with different symbols that the normal 26 letter alphabet are also more familiar with hyphens. I've had some arab traffic with some of my "--" domains. When I visited the 520 domains for potential sites there were many developed German and Asian sites. Hyphens also often get priority over letters in directory positions. (e.g. A-A.com ranked higher on directory than AA.com and hence more directory based traffic.)

05-16-2007, 09:36 AM	#62 (permalink)
ginge133 NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 315	Its says its sold on the sedo homepage GoPC.

05-16-2007, 09:51 AM	THREAD STARTER #63 (permalink)
GoPC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,633	Wow... nice My friends, I think we have confirmation then, yeah? Our niche IS a winner!!! GoPC __________________ Just wondering why folks tell you your domain isn't worth reg fee then pay SNAP $70 for your domain...

05-16-2007, 11:46 AM	#65 (permalink)
buckshotdots Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,705	water Just grabbed E-A-U.COM - water in french. Since water is more expensive than oil GOing to try some seo on this one. gary- tried to give rep but wouldnt let me. Thanks for the list! Last edited by buckshotdots; 05-16-2007 at 11:49 AM. Reason: couldnt give rep

05-16-2007, 01:56 PM	#66 (permalink)
SDX MYP.COM Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 0C.COM/0C.NET California/Italia Posts: 3,162	Great thread! ... Anyone have a new list? __________________ SDX :) KXX.COM For Sale! Last edited by SDX; 05-16-2007 at 03:02 PM.

05-16-2007, 02:03 PM	#67 (permalink)
Mike NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2005 Location: www.chrome.us Posts: 5,217	um....the only thing that makes me is that "-" hyphens are never good for a domain, why would that suddenly change? Especially considering that it's not just one "-" but 2!!!! ... maybe i'm not getting it, but why would the unwritten rules of domaining suddenly change?

05-16-2007, 02:14 PM	THREAD STARTER #68 (permalink)
GoPC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,633	"Never Good for a domain"? What about Jack-O-Lantern.com? I think partly the answer is: 1 - Stop thinking like a DOMAINER and start thinking like an end user... What brandable domains is LEFT for a reasonable price? Can you reasonable expect to be able to buy hmo.com? In the end, these guys are looking for something reasonable relevant to their needs but will make the effort to BRAND whatever they choose. So... WHY NOT brand h-m-o.com for a fraction of the money? 2 - Search engines DON'T SEE THE HYPHENS. h-m-o.com has just as much opportunity to find itself on the top of the Google Heap as hmo.com ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=307779 The great many businesses using the internet as another medium by which to share their message aren't interested or even partially aware of "intrinsic value" or "natural traffic". Their Marketing Directors say "Brand the Name and they will come" It's the MANTRA of Business. "Repetition is the Key to Success" Phone number a minumum of THREE times per add, brand name a minimum of 6 times per add. The only direct navigation they think about is telling their customers where to go... not wondering what a potential visitor might type to find them. 3rd and Finally - Foreign traffic seems to use an abundance of dashes in their domains, searches and digital conversations. Far more than even a fraction of US traffic. All of this leads to one thing... those of us with solid two dashers are GETTING TRAFFIC to verying degrees and much of that traffic is paying off. The recent sale shows that there is end-user interest as well. It may be a fad, it may be a trend. Who knows for sure? But that is, at the essence, what we do......... SPECULATE. GoPC __________________ Just wondering why folks tell you your domain isn't worth reg fee then pay SNAP $70 for your domain...

05-16-2007, 05:17 PM	#71 (permalink)
Chris. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: d-c-s.com Posts: 3,002	GoPC any chance you can take a screen shot of h-m-o.com stats and post it here please i have a theory which i need to solve.

05-16-2007, 06:34 PM	#74 (permalink)
Chris. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: d-c-s.com Posts: 3,002	Thanks GoPc i let you know if the theory works the only way to test it is to see a one and half weeks of stats from a domain in my theory list. it may not even work lol but thanks for the stats, time will tell i guess. Chris

05-16-2007, 06:43 PM	THREAD STARTER #75 (permalink)
GoPC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,633	Oh come one! LOL!!! You big tease... what is your theory SUPPOSED to do? It won't be a "prediction" unless you put it on the line BEFORE the data comes in. GoPC __________________ Just wondering why folks tell you your domain isn't worth reg fee then pay SNAP $70 for your domain...

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