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scandiman · 03-08-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Never said those things and while I have used terms like mobi-cultists I have not named anyone in that group which means only the reader can perceive themselves in it.

And yes lots of my arguments are conjecture about mobi or mTLD. They are not conjecture about people or members here.

So when you went on the following tirade in a now deleted thread would you not consider this personal?

Originally Posted by labrocca

"Do you really think this domain has ANY value? Please scandiman if all you can say is good things about every single mobi registered then you are just a dishonest person. You can't honestly say that this domain has ANY value. It's a ZERO. u469.mobi? wtf is that? Adult my arse...it's a zero period. Get real about helping domainers and stop feeding them lies to make them feel good or to push your agenda of placing mobi on a pedestal. Normally I stay away from these appraisal threads but this entire thread is unconscionable!"

To refresh your memory, all I said was one single word, "indeed", acknowledging that discussion about the domain in question belonged in an adult forum.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/301564-frank-schillings-take-on-mobi.html

So in my efforts to respect the NP rules you find it appropriate to call me a liar.

Originally Posted by labrocca

If I have offended a person I am normally man enough to send them a PM apology or even a public apology.

Well, you eventually responded to my PM regarding your aforementioned slanderous remarks by saying that you didn't care. I am offended that you have called me a liar in a public forum and I am hoping you are man enough to apologize in this thread. The proof is in the pudding.

Innercool22 · 03-09-2007, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Yes, Warren Buffet is genius. Its uncanny how a person knows what will jump in value. Some got it and some don't.

I have the solution to the dotmobi speculation.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Lets ask Warren Buffet.

I would like his opinion tho-

GeoOwners · 03-09-2007, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Silenced ? No What I don't understand about anyone ( I did not name names either)is why go into an ext specific thread if you don't like the ext. Voice your opinion all you like in General Discussion, I believe ext specific are for like minded individuals that wanted their own forum within the forum. I say this because I started this concept with the .tv subforum then came .us then .mobi

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K

your exactely right...the same idea of not dumping on a sales thread applies to a specific forum....tv .org or whatever...they are there because they like the idea not to create bs post after bs post...I think this thread has run its course and time to turn out the lights.

Bodhi · 03-09-2007, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by dentalpro

your exactely right...the same idea of not dumping on a sales thread applies to a specific forum....tv .org or whatever...they are there because they like the idea not to create bs post after bs post...I think this thread has run its course and time to turn out the lights.

Unfortnately, the repeat offender(s) will just start up again in another thread. It has become a form of entertainment for the person(s) no doubt.

goodkarmaco · 03-09-2007, 04:09 AM

Not even thinking about all that is said, the mobi bashers choose to use poorly supported cliches to prop up the assumption .mobi will fail. So why bother to respond with intelligent answers to the same boring questions.

Mr shilling is not alone in his thinking. But the don't get took scare tactic being used is hurting and will hurt even those big players who own thousands of .coms
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Let us not forget the image of domainers is not that great of one with the media and certain tangable media reporting about "cyberquatters, parking sharks and other less than desirable images.

So keep on shooting yourselfs in the foot Mr. Shilling and other .mobi haters. Writting in blogs and public forums that people who have anything to do with the new .mobi are simalar to the gold seekers of 1849. Simalar in that they only chased a dream.

Then to see the gold rush in those eyes is akin to ignoring that thousands of people became very rich from those gold fields and those people became the owners of huge corporations that are still here today.

But to hear these guys talk you would think buying a .mobi is going to take away food from the baby and will run the household to poverty. Don't these guys have any common sense. Successful domain people are going to invest in the extension based on THEIR knowledge of the .mobi.

If you cannot see the value of the .mobi then you will not register the domain. If you do see the value of it based of the knowledge you have learned about the .mobi then you will buy the domain.

I guess that can be called free market.

StoneRoses · 03-09-2007, 04:22 AM

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K[/QUOTE]

Lol!, I might put this on my Q&A favourite statement

Quality analogy!

Jasdon · 03-09-2007, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K

I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of hot coffee when I read that....I'd be looking for a new keyboard now!

Carlton · 03-09-2007, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by labrocca

...I just added a nice post at my new mobisucks blog.

http://www.mobisucks.info

Aren't you the guy that modified his initial view on mobi? But now a mobi sucks blog? You were moving toward a more balanced view for awhile.

Actually, the mobi sales were pretty decent. I didn't expect a high flying flowers.mobi replay. The recent sales were more reflective of a decent business investment vs. wild speculation. Hope labrocca will get back more of the moderate view he had adopted,

.

mkylut · 03-09-2007, 04:57 AM

EDITED

mjnels · 03-09-2007, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by labrocca

If I have offended a person I am normally man enough to send them a PM apology or even a public apology. No person is ever always right and I don't mind admitting when I err.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564
You mean like the PM you sent me a few days ago after your insane-trolling-mobi-hate-thread got deleted by admin, and you assumed i reported it.. (which i didnt, but probably would have just to piss you off)..... you mean this PM?

" You are on my ignore list...been so for months now...you think reporting my thread will shut me up or change facts that mobi just took ANOTHER hit today from it's pedestal?

If you reply...I won't read it...so don't bother.

I just think you should add me to your ignore list asap if you can't stand my posts so much. "

Class act labrocca, your a hero.
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Bodhi · 03-09-2007, 06:47 AM

I'm getting a bit uncomfortable with the bashing of people by name. As I have mentioned before and someone else has in this thread. The best way to deal with the person (s) who I won't mention is to ingore their comments completely.

mkylut · 03-09-2007, 07:00 AM

someone should stop this thread.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Originally Posted by neobodhi

I'm getting a bit uncomfortable with the bashing of people by name. As I have mentioned before and someone else has in this thread. The best way to deal with the person (s) who I won't mention is to ingore their comments completely.

Agree and thanks for your reminder

oxford11 · 03-09-2007, 07:15 AM

Mods, please stop this thread. It's gone on too long. Some things just aren't worth discussing. A lot brilliant people in this thread... your smarts are needed else where.

Ox

jmcc · 03-09-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Not even thinking about all that is said, the mobi bashers choose to use poorly supported cliches to prop up the assumption .mobi will fail.

Actually it might be down to confusion over market types. The .mobi TLD is a slow burn kind of market where the premium generics are periodically auctioned off. This makes it quite different from badly run ccTLDs like .eu where warehousers / domainers and cybersquatters crowded out legitimate (business) registrants to such an extent that it damaged the credibility of the extension.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Quote:

Mr shilling is not alone in his thinking. But the don't get took scare tactic being used is hurting and will hurt even those big players who own thousands of .coms

Looking at it purely in terms of type-in traffic he is right. There is no worthwhile type-in traffic this early in the lifetime of an extension because it hasn't really entered the public awareness yet.

Quote:

]So keep on shooting yourselfs in the foot Mr. Shilling and other .mobi haters. Writting in blogs and public forums that people who have anything to do with the new .mobi are simalar to the gold seekers of 1849. Simalar in that they only chased a dream.

I'm not a .mobi hater - I just analyse TLDs and domain registration patterns. In any early market, there is going to be a pile of people who lose and a very small number that actually win big. By auctioning off the premium generics, the .mobi registry has priced a lot of the smaller domainers out of the market for these domains.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Quote:

If you cannot see the value of the .mobi then you will not register the domain. If you do see the value of it based of the knowledge you have learned about the .mobi then you will buy the domain.

I still think that .mobi will be a long term investment unless something radical happens with mobile internet browsing patterns.

Quote:

I guess that can be called free market.

I don't think it is a free market becase .mobi registry is controlling the release of the premium generics.

Regards...jmcc

ofclean · 03-09-2007, 07:57 AM

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

GeoOwners · 03-09-2007, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by ofclean

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

that applies to 98% of the peeps ...

equity78 · 03-09-2007, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Lol!, I might put this on my Q&A favourite statement

Quality analogy!

Thank you Stone that is original I did not copy it from anyone. glad it made a few people laugh.

This is what I meant General Discussion Forum should be for anyone to say whatever they want. A subforum devoted to an ext is basically stating here is a bunch of like minded individuals that wanted a place to interact with other like minded individuals. Its like Mobians are not asking for the opinion of everyone they are trying to communicate with each other not looking for a validation. Say someone is a swinger and goes to swinger parties, they are not looking for the opinions of others on their lifestyle... they want to interact with other swingers.... So someone has the right to voice their opinion against swinging.......but not at a swingers club.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Bottom line is something can be done about it amend the sub forum rules

RULE ThIS IS THE .MOBI SUBFORUM a forum dedicated to the discussion of .mobi. IF you do not like .mobi great, take your opinions to the general discussion forum all bashing threads and posts will be deleted.

The bottom line is you are not allowed to have rules less strict than Namepros but you can have rules that are more strict.

Bodhi · 03-09-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Say someone is a swinger and goes to swinger parties.

LOL, your anologies seem to have a persistent theme

I don't want to know what goes on behind your closed doors

scandiman · 03-09-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

RULE ThIS IS THE .MOBI SUBFORUM a forum dedicated to the discussion of .mobi. IF you do not like .mobi great, take your opinions to the general discussion forum all bashing threads and posts will be deleted.

The bottom line is you are not allowed to have rules less strict than Namepros but you can have rules that are more strict.

Is this a suggestion or an actual change? I sure hope it is the latter.

equity78 · 03-09-2007, 12:37 PM

It is a rule in Dot TV subforum Scandiman because I started the forum and I run it and yes I told RJ about having stricter rules and that was fine. You cannot have it the other way with rules less strict than the overall forum.

So no reason Scandi that INOD cannot do the same. Make it a subforum rule

NEO I am neither a swinger or go to lesbian bars You have to admit the lesbian bar one is funny and a good analogy IMO

labrocca · 03-09-2007, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by ofclean

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

That's why he has been on my ignore list for quite some time now.

Quote:

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K

lol...that's really a great line sir. Wonderful.

Now I can see how many of my comments can be construed of mobi bashing but here are some other comments I have made as well.

"I personally don’t see mobi as a failure…on the contrary…I view it as a qualified success story."'

"I applaud anyone building a nice little site or has a plan other than to resell or park the mobi domain."

"When the demand and technology for proper mobile devices to display the normal internet is when a new boom will occur."

Now my real problem is with people that do not see balance or problems in the mobi extension. IMHO problems can only be solved if they are recognized. If mobi lovers have no interest in improving mobi, it' visibility, and viability then that's fine too. It will be your lose not mine. I just don't understand the blind enthusiasm for mobi and the inability to discuss it's shortcomings. Do you think mTLD will ignore the masses of domainers if we work WITH them in order to improve mobi? Do you think mobi is so perfect that it can't be improved?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Last night I myself FINALLY thought of how I am going to develop DxD.mobi and soon even I will have a mobi developed site.

Anyways...today is a new day. Maybe we can be more civil than yesterday. I don't hold grudges (normally).

GeoOwners · 03-09-2007, 01:11 PM

oops wrong thread...sorry

goodkarmaco · 03-09-2007, 01:31 PM

I hope mods DO NOT take this discussion down. We have many fine points made here and my hope is more will follow. In this case Labrocca is right, it is a new day and looking to learn about this extension should be the main goal of all.

Honestly though folks like to talk about the meager investments they make. We want .mobi to succeed. Well pointing out its flaws is important to as we all need to be aware of .mobi short comings. The people who seem to think .mobi buyers are out in left field assume we are abandoning the .coms. To the contrary. But at the same time we are playing the odds with a small amount of our resources.

I don't see any mobi lovers bashing .coms. In my opinion, I see no reason to bash .mobi either. Doing that is going to reflect on all domain owners by giving bad press to the industry who are looking for headlines.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

In truth folks who see no value in the .mobi can say that, but to go the the extreme is only stirring up in blogs and the press that the domain business is unscruplous. Is that what we want?

labrocca · 03-09-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

but to go the the extreme is only stirring up in blogs and the press that the domain business is unscruplous. Is that what we want?

Accountability is important. Otherwise Registerfly would still be in business. IMHO there is a lot of problems in the domain industry overall. Maybe I should change my blog to reflect that overall instead of just mobi.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Time to look for a new name! Thanks for the sideways advice.

mejcdj · 03-09-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by ofclean

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

Looks like a one-liner post to me

Oops I almost forgot to put this second line in

Originally Posted by equity78

Thank you Stone that is original I did not copy it from anyone. glad it made a few people laugh.

This is what I meant General Discussion Forum should be for anyone to say whatever they want. A subforum devoted to an ext is basically stating here is a bunch of like minded individuals that wanted a place to interact with other like minded individuals. Its like Mobians are not asking for the opinion of everyone they are trying to communicate with each other not looking for a validation. Say someone is a swinger and goes to swinger parties, they are not looking for the opinions of others on their lifestyle... they want to interact with other swingers.... So someone has the right to voice their opinion against swinging.......but not at a swingers club.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564

Bottom line is something can be done about it amend the sub forum rules

RULE ThIS IS THE .MOBI SUBFORUM a forum dedicated to the discussion of .mobi. IF you do not like .mobi great, take your opinions to the general discussion forum all bashing threads and posts will be deleted.

The bottom line is you are not allowed to have rules less strict than Namepros but you can have rules that are more strict.

HERE! HERE!

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goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,976	Not even thinking about all that is said, the mobi bashers choose to use poorly supported cliches to prop up the assumption .mobi will fail. So why bother to respond with intelligent answers to the same boring questions. Mr shilling is not alone in his thinking. But the don't get took scare tactic being used is hurting and will hurt even those big players who own thousands of .coms ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564 Let us not forget the image of domainers is not that great of one with the media and certain tangable media reporting about "cyberquatters, parking sharks and other less than desirable images. So keep on shooting yourselfs in the foot Mr. Shilling and other .mobi haters. Writting in blogs and public forums that people who have anything to do with the new .mobi are simalar to the gold seekers of 1849. Simalar in that they only chased a dream. Then to see the gold rush in those eyes is akin to ignoring that thousands of people became very rich from those gold fields and those people became the owners of huge corporations that are still here today. But to hear these guys talk you would think buying a .mobi is going to take away food from the baby and will run the household to poverty. Don't these guys have any common sense. Successful domain people are going to invest in the extension based on THEIR knowledge of the .mobi. If you cannot see the value of the .mobi then you will not register the domain. If you do see the value of it based of the knowledge you have learned about the .mobi then you will buy the domain. I guess that can be called free market. __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline"

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equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	It is a rule in Dot TV subforum Scandiman because I started the forum and I run it and yes I told RJ about having stricter rules and that was fine. You cannot have it the other way with rules less strict than the overall forum. So no reason Scandi that INOD cannot do the same. Make it a subforum rule NEO I am neither a swinger or go to lesbian bars You have to admit the lesbian bar one is funny and a good analogy IMO __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today Last edited by equity78; 03-09-2007 at 12:43 PM.

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Bodhi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,129	I'm getting a bit uncomfortable with the bashing of people by name. As I have mentioned before and someone else has in this thread. The best way to deal with the person (s) who I won't mention is to ingore their comments completely.

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oxford11 NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 138	Mods, please stop this thread. It's gone on too long. Some things just aren't worth discussing. A lot brilliant people in this thread... your smarts are needed else where. Ox

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ofclean NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 794	mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

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goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,976	I hope mods DO NOT take this discussion down. We have many fine points made here and my hope is more will follow. In this case Labrocca is right, it is a new day and looking to learn about this extension should be the main goal of all. Honestly though folks like to talk about the meager investments they make. We want .mobi to succeed. Well pointing out its flaws is important to as we all need to be aware of .mobi short comings. The people who seem to think .mobi buyers are out in left field assume we are abandoning the .coms. To the contrary. But at the same time we are playing the odds with a small amount of our resources. I don't see any mobi lovers bashing .coms. In my opinion, I see no reason to bash .mobi either. Doing that is going to reflect on all domain owners by giving bad press to the industry who are looking for headlines. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=301564 In truth folks who see no value in the .mobi can say that, but to go the the extreme is only stirring up in blogs and the press that the domain business is unscruplous. Is that what we want? __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline"

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