CDM

have i gone crazy or did the other thread that thebaldone started about the ebay auctions just vanish? i dont see the link in this thread anymore, and i dont see it in the 'my recent posts' or 'threads i posted in'

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ipodxpert

Congrats DJ on getting Veg.as. One of the best hacks to own. I really like it.

I hand registered S*xC.am today.

S*xCam is taken in pretty much all the possible top level domain.

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TheBaldOne

CDM,sorry for the delay in responding, it was taken down because I was spamming my signature. Looking back on it I obviously was by typing in just above the signature that the domains in the signature linked through to auctions.... So I was in the wrong. All I should have done was change my signature, which of course I now have!

There you go, even experienced members make mistakes.

Ipod, nice reg. Can you imagine the auction if .am allowed suddenly single letter registrations?

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TheBaldOne

Just a note for the record, the auction for ChristJes.us on eBay was terminated with approx. 27 hours remaining as there had been no substantial bids placed (actually the highest bid was $5.25), bidding had not even approached the reserve, so therefore the auction was terminated. The same will apply to the other individual domains presently in auction, if within 30 hours of the close no substantial bids are placed they too will be withdrawn.

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Kamikaze

I own guag.es and made a sub named lan... lan.guag.es
Could be developed as a site teaching languages IMHO

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.tv

Thank you!

s*xcam is also nice!

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Toni

It would be nice to see the auctions running till the end...

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TheBaldOne

Hi Toni, I have just posted a new thread, and yes I have been talked into letting the remaining auctions run their time! Hell, it isn't going to cost me anything.

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Toni

nice thanks!

I started to develop Lose.kg and also started a Slogan contest over at Noomle (ending in 24 hours), please help out if you have a good slogan in mind that plays on the hack, something like but better

Want to order a logo beginning of next week and need a catchy slogan...

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TheBaldOne

Well Wiscons.in did not sell, the highest bid was a meagre $41. This will affect the perceived value of other State domain names, and there are quite a few:

Colora.do
Delawa.re
Illino.is
Kans.as
NewHampshi.re
NewMexi.co
Oklaho.ma
Tenness.ee

and of course the biggest of the lot

Tex.as

It cannot be argued that nobody knew of the sale or that Wiscons.in at 5.8 million residents was just a small State, it is just under 1/4 the population of Texas. So this is not good news for US State geo domain hacks.

It can only be hoped that the auction of Arkans.as goes better on Tuesday, but the high bid there is only $1.

Tomorrow JesusChri.st is in auction, and on Wednesday the final auction is of Fig.ht, but at the moment they are not bringing the bidders in.

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.tv

All I can say is, eBay is NOT the best auction venue for selling domain hacks, and in general domain names.

If you are an investor, and have a strong budget for domain hacks, be prepared to wait for years until you get a potential buyer. For me, it doesn't matter how a domain name sells at auction venue like eBay, especially if the names are hacks.

I wont be surprised if the same name gets a potential offer of $xx,xxx from an end user within a year or two.

FYI, I rejected two mid $x,xxx offers for LasVegas and Texas last month. One via Sedo, and the other one via email. eBay is NOT the world. I have a price in mind for my domain names, and I wont sell them for anything less than that margin. Every platform lacks potential buyers, and every platform fails to fetch the names to the interested people when they search for them. I emailed Sedo a few times about modifying their search technique a little bit so that it fetches domain hacks, but I know its not an easy job, hence I have not received any replies from them.

If you rely on eBay's auction results and only eBay marketplace, probably you will end up losing your listing prices without getting a decent sale. I was a PowerSeller almost 3 yrs ago on eBay, and have a solid understanding about how their marketplace works. All the best with your auctions, but I know what would be the results tho.

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CDM

yes exactly as i was pointing out in the other thread that got wiped, so i wont repeat all here since i dont remember everything i mentioned, but suffice to say that a few domains not selling well on ebay does not spell a death knell for all domains in any category, extension or niche. ebay has long been known among domainers as the place to buy (get domains on the cheap) therefore not the best place to sell. even if you've emailed a lot of potential buyers/end-users, its not guarantee. i've had auctions running before where i contacted dozens of potential buyers that still did not result in a higher sale. it happens

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Toni

I am surprised to be honest that even though you have done so much marketing that there is so little response...

me too I don't think it hurts much the value of domain hacks, as long as we don't start selling out at these low prices we are fine... we need to give the buyers of domain hacks a clear message: "don't bother us with offers below $x.xxx!" (I mean this for the top domain hacks, 2nd tier hacks can be had cheaper or even be resold in the forums)

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TheBaldOne

Right, let us clear up one point here, I am saying that the very poor response affects the 'perceived value' of domain hacks, well actually at the moment I can even be more specific than that, yesterdays result (but see beneath) hurts the 'perceived value' of US State geo domain hacks. I am not saying it hurts the value of domain hacks, there is a big and important difference here.

What also happened (which i reported on the other thread) was that within 90 minutes of the end of the auction I received a $500 offer on Sedo for Wiscons.in, obviously someone thought they would try and get the domain on the cheap. They did not and will not do so.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=299608

I have discussed on the other thread how and why eBay was chosen as the venue, its benefits and drawbacks, and rather than re-hash the same postings here I would advise people to read the other thread. What though cannot hold water is that eBay is just not a suitable place for the sale of quality domains, are domainers and end users so snobbish that they would not buy a domain name because it was on eBay? Somehow after many years in this industry I think not, have a look in the mirror folks, we are all in this business to make money.

I totally agree that offers in the $x,xxx+ range would be made, hell I would not own and enthuse about domain hacks so much if I did not think so. I personally value the domains much higher than they were put up for sale at, but nonetheless the bids that were made are now on record. What is important is that this is not a 'Buyers' market', we as domain hack owners have to not sell at these ridiculously low offers as Toni points out above.

Finally for the record, .tv, I would LOVE to have Tex.as and/or Veg.as, the first of which has to have a value in the $xx,xxx range at least, and if I should sometime in the near future have that spare you will definately be getting such an offer from me!

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Toni

hey that was my estimate of final sales price for wiscons.in at ebay, guess in a way I was right

congrats on the offer, really weird whats going on currently with those $500/500 Euro offers for domain hacks...

did you counter? Any hope? All my $500/500 Euro offers I countered never got a response...

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TheBaldOne

I didn't counter-offer.

I have now contacted the major paper in Wisconsin (Journal Sentinal) with the aim of placing an ad in the paper, I may as well as least not the work done so far be wasted, it will mean increasing my budget slightly but it will be interesting to see the response. As I have said elsewhere we have to evolve our marketing techniques.

What was strange was that with the $500 offer I cancelled it straight away, only thing is that with Sedo you are meant to have to make at least one counter-offer before you can cancel. So how could I cancel immediately?

Can I ask please of those that have also received these $500 or 500 Euro offers have they all been on Sedo?

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Toni

some sedo and some email, maybe someone watching this thread trying to get hold of some nice domain hacks...

why would want to cancel it? at least tell them you want $20k for it, you never know they might just accept it.. LOL

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TheBaldOne

Toni, there is a time for everything!

If the person making the offer was seious then they will come back with a higher offer, if not they will not. The message is simple, $500 was nowhere near the asking price.

My money is on the fact that 'someone' tried a cheeky move having watched either the thread or the auction. Nothing is wrong with that, but remember when you make an offer or counter offer on Sedo then that offer you are bound by for 7 days. There is still a heck of a lot that I can do to market the domain (see above post) or literally send the domain for development. As a seller you are in control, you should never give up that advantage except when you are having to 'fire sell', and even then hopefully you would never let the buyer know that you are in a situation where you have to 'fire sell'.

Of all the domains available domain hacks are the most unique targeted commodity on the market, and although some have misunderstood my postings one thing I want everyone to understand is that I value domain hacks higher than most domainers, in fact I love them from a marketing and advertising point of view.

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geb9696

I understand the appeal visually of state domain hacks but how do they end up doing in the Search Engines? Do they still get the keyword strength from that you would from having it all before the extension or will it only read the Tex in Texas? Not trying to bash just really curious as I am thinking from a development stantpoint here.

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.tv

Yep, it's true. Domain hacks lack the support of search engines. Tex.as is simply treated as "Tex" by search engines, but there are numerous ways to boost search engine ranking, IMO.

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Toni

I think 2 word hacks where the extension is the second word are treated better by search engines..

Here is something to read for hack enthusiasts : Is A Domain Hack Worth 10x More Than The Correct Domain? Banco.co Vs. Ban.co | The Domains

and seems like development has started at those 2 :

moroc.co
mexi.co

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lzy

Recently sold a .US hack for $500 which I bought 3 months ago for $65.

I could probably have gotten more but I decided to accept the buyer's initial offer right away seeing it was a decent ROI.

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Toni

Well done!!

There we go just another $500 offer, am I the only one finding it strange?

Is it possible to share the name with us?

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CDM

if watching, i'm hungry for a sale right now so you should go ahead and re-offer your last counter

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Toni

lol,

very quite in here, more then 10 days without a post..

any sales guys?

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