re:domain

cache · 02-10-2007, 12:10 PM

there is always room for IDN, but the point is that people bidding there did not know or
warned it is a IDN.

Erdy · 02-10-2007, 12:11 PM

Lots of buyers are going to get pissed off of sedo. As a seller who has many domains there I'm not very happy.

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I just discovered that a huge land rush started yesterday for many of these types of domains.

Is there a possibility that these domains are worth something just based on how close they look to their non IDN counterparts?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/289418-sedo-helping-scammers-fake-domains-like.html
I can't see any value.

Unless you want to advertise for free for the real fix.com

Nobody will type it in. It's not brandable. It's not even a keyword that will help you in the search engines.

I can't see it being worth anymore then app1es.com

CrazyHorse · 02-10-2007, 12:18 PM

MarcelProust, Sedo has nothing to do with it, they wouldn't risk their reputation over a few hundred dollars. I think people are bidding on the names at $60 a pop knowing they are indeed IDN based, once they enter the auction though, hard to tell what bidders actually think they are buying.

I've been watching these sales, every one has fallen through, so I'm not worried about it. Sedo is just wasting their own time.

Erdy · 02-10-2007, 12:24 PM

CrazyHorse,

Thats not true. There is no chance that by coincidence so many people can make an offer for fake domains all at the same time.

There are two possibilities:

1. The seller has a second account and bids something like 60 or 100usd for his own domain just to get it into auction. Afterwards it keeps rolloing on its own.

2. A sedo employee is involved and is trying to make some quick money. I still cant explain how some of those went there without any offer at all.

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 12:25 PM

They should just list the domains like so:

xn--fx-kja.com (fìx.com)

Since that is what they are selling.

Do you think it would be anywhere near $5K if it was listed in it's true form?

xn--fx-kja.com

Come on you know you guys want it

Erdy · 02-10-2007, 12:29 PM

9600 USD right now. This is going to be a huge fiasco.

CrazyHorse · 02-10-2007, 12:32 PM

What fiasco, there is no way in hell this sale in going through.

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by MarcelProust

9600 USD right now. This is going to be a huge fiasco.

xn--fx-kja.com

Just broke the five digit barrier.. $20,000

I think you're right. There is no way a domain as worthless as this can command such a price.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418
This sale should put a end to this kind of shady pratice

CrazyHorse · 02-10-2007, 12:35 PM

Yeah, Sedo will have to sort this out.

The scariest thing is, someone with $25K didn't even bother to take the time to read the auction listing.

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Yeah, Sedo will have to sort this out.

The scariest thing is, someone with $25K didn't even bother to take the time to read the auction listing.

This is insane. I wonder how much it will sell for?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418
$25,500 with 45 minutes to go..

Somebody is NOT going to be happy..

I wonder if the person who put this up for sale actually thinks he/she will get away with this?

GeoOwners · 02-10-2007, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by slipxaway

Theres nothing unethical about domaining unless you resort to unethical practices... Look at business in general though, I don't think anyone even knows the meaning of "ethics." Some people just look for an easy way to make money. Others actually want to build something they can be proud of that is sustainable and real. Thats the major difference.

very well said...couldnt put it better myself

Erdy · 02-10-2007, 12:47 PM

The buyer might not realize it until he gets the domain. There is a chance the buyer might send the money. Since we don't know who the buyer is we can't warn him.

I expected sedo to handle this more professional. There were a few other sales like this recently. Sedo should have learned their lesson.

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by MarcelProust

The buyer might not realize it until he gets the domain. There is a chance the buyer might send the money. Since we don't know who the buyer is we can't warn him.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418

I expected sedo to handle this more professional. There were a few other sales like this recently. Sedo should have learned their lesson.

The person who buys this obviously has the money to lawyer up. There is NO way this sale is going through

buckshotdots · 02-10-2007, 12:50 PM

If he wanted it badly enough on the auction, wouldn't he get his wife/friend to make a $60 bid on a second account and push it to auction (not that Im recommending that as that would be unethical?)? Since everyone is going crazy over them it for sure would get more bids then the starting $60.

just my thoughts, Gary.

Erdy · 02-10-2007, 12:55 PM

Oliver, where are you? You were getting angry with me telling repeatedly that you made it very clear. Does it look like you did a good job?

GijsZePa · 02-10-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by dentalpro

very well said...couldnt put it better myself

There's another scary thing about these IDN's...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418

What about phishing ?

Every bank with an i in his name must be carefull. Even careful people won't see the strange i when giving in their login and password...

Martin

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by GijsZePa

There's another scary thing about these IDN's...

What about phishing ?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418
Every bank with an i in his name must be carefull. Even careful people won't see the strange i when giving in their login and password...

Martin

I don't think these IDNs will make that anymore a problem then it already is.

The browser automaticly jumps to:

http://xn--fx-kja.com/

when you type-in fìx.com

Broker · 02-10-2007, 01:02 PM

Sedo is only digging their own grave here with all this. Plain and simple, its dishonest business practices meant to deceive period. On the flip side, buyer beware.

GijsZePa · 02-10-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danny25

I don't think these IDNs will make that anymore a problem then it already is.

The browser automaticly jumps to:

http://xn--fx-kja.com/

when you type-in fìx.com

Still in IE 8 ?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=289418

Martin

scandiman · 02-10-2007, 01:29 PM

OMG, fix.com (wth the IDN accent) is over 40,000 right now on Sedo. What a scam.

CrazyHorse · 02-10-2007, 01:54 PM

Any idea what the non IDN fix.com is worth? Low XXX,XXX maybe?

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Any idea what the non IDN fix.com is worth? Low XXX,XXX maybe?

end user

High $xxx,xxx - low $x,xxx,xxx

www.fix.com is actually a site

CrazyHorse · 02-10-2007, 02:00 PM

Why doesn't Sedo stop the auction?

Danny25 · 02-10-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Why doesn't Sedo stop the auction?

If the transaction goes through they get like 10%

They probably figure these are legit bids or atleast they hope

02-10-2007, 12:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
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02-10-2007, 12:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	MarcelProust, Sedo has nothing to do with it, they wouldn't risk their reputation over a few hundred dollars. I think people are bidding on the names at $60 a pop knowing they are indeed IDN based, once they enter the auction though, hard to tell what bidders actually think they are buying. I've been watching these sales, every one has fallen through, so I'm not worried about it. Sedo is just wasting their own time. Last edited by CrazyHorse; 02-10-2007 at 12:21 PM.

02-10-2007, 12:25 PM	#31 (permalink)
Danny25 NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 134	They should just list the domains like so: xn--fx-kja.com (fìx.com) Since that is what they are selling. Do you think it would be anywhere near $5K if it was listed in it's true form? xn--fx-kja.com Come on you know you guys want it Last edited by Danny25; 02-10-2007 at 12:28 PM.

02-10-2007, 12:50 PM	#40 (permalink)
buckshotdots Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,705	re:domain If he wanted it badly enough on the auction, wouldn't he get his wife/friend to make a $60 bid on a second account and push it to auction (not that Im recommending that as that would be unethical?)? Since everyone is going crazy over them it for sure would get more bids then the starting $60. just my thoughts, Gary.

02-10-2007, 01:29 PM	#46 (permalink)
scandiman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: living in exile Posts: 3,853	OMG, fix.com (wth the IDN accent) is over 40,000 right now on Sedo. What a scam. Last edited by scandiman; 02-10-2007 at 01:38 PM.

02-10-2007, 12:11 PM	THREAD STARTER #27 (permalink)
Erdy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,922	Lots of buyers are going to get pissed off of sedo. As a seller who has many domains there I'm not very happy.

02-10-2007, 12:24 PM	THREAD STARTER #30 (permalink)
Erdy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,922	CrazyHorse, Thats not true. There is no chance that by coincidence so many people can make an offer for fake domains all at the same time. There are two possibilities: 1. The seller has a second account and bids something like 60 or 100usd for his own domain just to get it into auction. Afterwards it keeps rolloing on its own. 2. A sedo employee is involved and is trying to make some quick money. I still cant explain how some of those went there without any offer at all.

02-10-2007, 12:29 PM	THREAD STARTER #32 (permalink)
Erdy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,922	9600 USD right now. This is going to be a huge fiasco.

02-10-2007, 12:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	What fiasco, there is no way in hell this sale in going through.

02-10-2007, 12:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Yeah, Sedo will have to sort this out. The scariest thing is, someone with $25K didn't even bother to take the time to read the auction listing.

02-10-2007, 12:47 PM	THREAD STARTER #38 (permalink)
Erdy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,922	The buyer might not realize it until he gets the domain. There is a chance the buyer might send the money. Since we don't know who the buyer is we can't warn him. I expected sedo to handle this more professional. There were a few other sales like this recently. Sedo should have learned their lesson.

02-10-2007, 12:55 PM	THREAD STARTER #41 (permalink)
Erdy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,922	Oliver, where are you? You were getting angry with me telling repeatedly that you made it very clear. Does it look like you did a good job?

02-10-2007, 01:02 PM	#44 (permalink)
Broker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 3,199	Sedo is only digging their own grave here with all this. Plain and simple, its dishonest business practices meant to deceive period. On the flip side, buyer beware.

02-10-2007, 01:54 PM	#47 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Any idea what the non IDN fix.com is worth? Low XXX,XXX maybe?

02-10-2007, 02:00 PM	#49 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Why doesn't Sedo stop the auction?

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