gingeman

Thanks for the kind words (and rep Jeff )! I must admit I rarely get involved in any .mobi thread as I fear the wrath/passion of the .mobi brigade! In response S-L-O-W, I completely agree that entertainment will be the driving force of .mobi in the early stages particularly, and if it does succeed as an extension I think it will be those names commanding some of the early big bucks. I am not sure any one of them will command a million though- there is a phenomenal amount of competition in that area already. As for searching for venues/directions/taxis/fast food on my mobile, I have done it before, yes (I am not the most organised of people I admit!!) but my point is that that is my personal vison of the way that mobile phones etc are evolving towards. What Ian has said is exactly how I feel- that I think .mobi has tremendous potential (potential has to be realised mind), and my main concern with it is the number of names being registered that I just don't think people will ever look at when they are on the road/bus/train etc.
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Here is a quote I found very interesting from Rick Schwartz:-

I have respect for Rick as he invests at a level far above myself, and this particular post rang with more truth in it than almost anything else I have read about .mobi (took me a while to find it, but I think its worth regurgitating- thanks Rick)

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MrRhee

I believe there will be 7 figure .mobi sales.

From the list of non-premiums?
Possibly. Mostly likely, the deals will never be made public.


From the premium list?
I believe MTLD will sell a few for $1MM+ to high end corporations.

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Will there be 7 figure sales generated from public auction sites? Possibly... but doubtful. Not unless it is a category-killer domain with a full PR blitz and lots of cold-calling involved. LOL.


Will domainers be able to reach that pricepoint this year or next? Time will tell. If a well-funded end-user has to have the domain, then the price is always negotiable. If you are dealing with a billion dollar company, 7 figures is very possible and not threatening to them. But in order to achieve results like this, it is smart to hunt down all your target suitors and explain to them what .mobi is about... and let them know that you will be making the same pitch to all the players in that marketspace. Effective.


I have seen a few .mobis posted on this site that I believe would sell for 7 figures if positioned and promoted correctly.


Will any "developed" .mobi sites sell for 7 figures? Highly likely. and possibly 8. But I believe development is key... not PPC pages... true development. That's where my focus lies... that's my goal for my .mobis... but "development discussion" belongs in another thread.

good luck to everyone... both players and spectators.

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goodkarmaco

Great posts everyone. I am certainly learning here. All are good points.

Rick says it all , its a very narrow tunnel to get a one million dollar .mobi thru and the names are not going to be like pizzatogo.mobi, rather pizza.mobi

Seems a good argument that entertainment is the mobile markets future. The whole mobile craze, if you call it that has been made popular Imo by the "in crowd" looking for downloads, etc. Correct me if I am wrong about that, just giving my best guess.

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gingeman

Roderick, I think the real point is, there is no wrong or right about what will happen in the future- nobody knows for sure, there are ideas that make sense to everyone. You have to do what's right for now. At the end of the day, I wouldn't think there are many names worth registering at this point as the most likely names to succeed have all gone, and the vast majority left would be a really wreckless investment IMHO. We can but guess at what the mobi's are that will demand 7 figures, if there will be any, my main concern is the people throwing money at names that will never be worth anything.

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domaindigger

Can you let us know which ones those are? You've actually sold domains for millions, so your opinion is insightful.

GeoOwners

prolly in the thread with the poll...banking etc

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goodkarmaco

Yes Gingeman,

That is my concern too.

The registrarrs are the only ones who benefit from the thousands of names being bought up at this late stage of the game. Big market, short .mobi domain = possible success.

Small market, long .mobi domains = impossible sales.

Please don't throw your money away on weak .mobi domains. Buy a decent one from a member before doing that.

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Question: How many domain sales outside .COM have you seen for 1 million dollars?

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Answer: None. It would almost be idiotic to claim that a .mobi will sell for $1 million +

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domaindigger

over 3 billion mobile phone users by 2008, hence over 3 billion potential mobile internet users. care to calculate the type-in value of sex.mobi, especially if the phones default to .mobi and they just need to type in "sex"? it would almost be idiotic for sex.mobi NOT to sell for at least $1 million.

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As i understand, domains above 1 mil will be sold on PPC rev. Will that be possible for sex.mobi?

gamehouse

Very interesting thread. While I can not answer the original question, I certainly wish that dotMobi goes public and I can put my hands on some of its shares.

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vietdomains

You are making an assumption here, which i don't think it will ever happen If none of the .mobis develope anytime soon, it will fall back to .coms very quick. At this pt of time, .mobi is unlikely to head up for big development.
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As of now, there is no restrictions for any extension to be accessiable on mobile fones - that means, all extensions are equally treated on mobiles - to me, that'll makes .mobi will soon be like many other none popular extensions. It's extremely risky to invest .mobi imo. The extension is almost never heard of by internet users, w/ the exception of domainers, that even make .mobi riskier . By the time it's familiarlized, .com/.net/.info already take over the market. So!... If .mobi investors don't want this extension to be faded, DEVELOPE AND PROMOTE THEM NOW !

jeremyp

I'm going to take a stab at this one...

Sex.mobi
Mortgage.mobi
Business.mobi
News.mobi
Ringtones.mobi
Music.mobi
Download.mobi
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These have a fair shot. There are another 100 that fall into this category. I think we'll see the $1MM fall in 2007-2008. NBA.mobi and Universalchannel.mobi, if used properly, will help a chain reaction of usage.

I hope. ;-) I feel confident that usage will trend positively in 2007 in a major way.

Jeremy

This is a tremendous point...

:scratches head:

I'll give you a check, but not a check mate on that one.

I think that MOBI has a legit shot. The domain name is resonating a bit very early on, and mobile is going to be uber-uber-hot.

A cool million is still a million... even to the Richie Rich set.

So, you could be right. I'd bet 5 NP that a MOBI goes $1MM by end of 2008.

Jeremy :-)

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Sam

1) No idiotic cellphone provider would EVER switch default to .mobi
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2) MOST of those 3 billion phone users NEVER use the internet...you are assuming everyone who owns a phone will surf the web. Sorry, but the truth is, its COSTLY and CUMBERSOME.

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vcool

Never say never again. If you remember, it used to COSTLY and CUMBERSOME surfing even on the PC before 1995. Give is some time, it will be cheap and easy to use. Check the iphone demo on YouTube.com and you will see the trend. Phone has an adventage of instant-on and always around which a PC lacks.

Badger

Dangerous points Sam...

Dont forget 1. Nokia and Samsung are supporters of the namespace and 2. My latest pda comes with unlimited MB downloads...

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GeoOwners

Sam may want do some research on mobile internet use in Asian and European countries...correct me if I'm wrong but MOST cell phone users there use the net on their phones...other countries usage will follow.

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domaindigger

Do your research before you make the kind of statements you made on this thread, otherwise it makes you look like a flamer. I bet you the several cellphone providers that are backing .mobi are seriously considering defaulting to it, but won't until there are more .mobi sites out there. In India, more people access broadband internet via their mobile phones than their PC's due to poor infrastructure. In Japan, they watch TV shows on their mobile phones while riding a taxi. In Korea, they pay for haircuts with their mobile phone.
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If enough .mobi's are developed, and mobile phone browsers default to .mobi, then .mobi will become the 2nd most valuable extension on the internet. 3 billion people...that's 3,000,000,000. I'd be happy with 0.001% of that market.

Sam

Wow my friend. You have a lot to learn. Perhaps you should do your own research before making ridiculous claims like this one.

According to a website:
http://www.internetworldstats.com/

This means only 1 BILLION people in the ENTIRE WORLD have ever SURFED the WEB. THIS INCLUDES COMPUTERS. If only ONE billion people in the world have ever surfed the web, what can make you even think that 3 billion people will be surfing via the cellphone AND then through a .mobi.

I'll give it to you on the asia market, asians love using their cellphone for wireless internet. Of course again, it wont matter since big companies are already pushing out mobile versions of their sites and soon just use a redirect script that can tell if you are using a computre or mobile (via .com)

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I own Mobitainment.mobi - yes, I think I was under the influence at the time but as I don't drink the influence cannot have been alcohol based - .mobi ahol perhaps

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freddy

I agree with that. It is today one of the most valuable names in .com, so way not in .mobi too? The latest sales in .mobi show us already the direction.

some network providers have flatrates for mobile web usage in Europe, but as I heared in asia there is a real boom for mobile internet.
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touchring

People never learn.

1999, we got WAAP!

2006, we got Moby!

domaindigger

It's simple. 1 in 2 humans is projected to have a mobile phone by 2008. That's over 3 billion mobile phone users. Just like with home internet access, flat rate internet plans will become the norm for mobile phones as prices come down and most likely included as standard with voice plans (heck, eventually voice plans will disappear and you'll just be paying for flat data access and using Skype-like programs for voice). Now add to all that newly developed content specifically for mobile phones thanks to .mobi and you have a potential market of over 3 billion internet users. You lack vision, my friend. You are thinking in the "now". You fail to realize that the 4:1 mobile phone to PC ratio is going to result in an explosion of internet use, especially in developing countries who's landline infrastructure is too poor (I've already cited India as an example). Think ahead, don't be so myopic.

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3 billion mobile phones, but what has it got to do with a domain extension? The dotmobi registrar is very smart to associate the mobile phone boom with a domain extension when such an association is completely illogical.

As a analogy. We got a real estate boom in Europe and many places, what about coming up with a dot home?

The iPhone is effectively a death sentence for crippled mobi net. Chinese OEM phone makers are already frantically coming up with better copies and better browsers to provide an even better browsing experience on mobile devices. It wouldn't take more than 16 months before those products flood the market worldwide.

Technology moves so fast that i won't be surprised if someone comes out with a phone that projects the browser onto the wall, and you could click by pointing at the wall!

Btw, latest news is a dot mobi buyer has just flushed 95k down the drain. If you guys want to waste money, pls consider donating to the Gates foundation instead!