circa1850

Sorry. Left out the question mark after the word "insider". Still amazing they went so fast.
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Never intended to seem hostile and certainly not the point I was trying to make. I was actually agreeing with you on your points.

As with every domain and name, it is up to the enduser how to market and promote it and make it memorable, even if it make no sense to use.

Let me use my self as an example.

I have a web site www.ceuq.com. Those four letters on the surface of appearances mean nothing at all.

But this is a specialty site I launched in June 2005.

My users since the launch? (These are users, not traffic)

2005 103,327
2006 355,235
2007 63,730

So since January 1, 2007 through yesterday, I have had 63,730 users.

Branding and marketing is the key. Make it memorable. Make it stick in someone's mind. Take whatever you have and make it mean something.

It takes a little bit of time and work and effort, but it will be worth it in the long run.

You do not need to know anything about any other culture to know that numbers are universal, numbers are more appropriate to cell phones and a mobile society and to the .mobi extension than perhaps any other TLD. There were only 1,000 NNN and only 10,000 NNNN.

They'll be 100,000 NNNNN and 1,000,000 NNNNNN. These will be perhaps a little more difficult to brand and market unless you get lucky like someone I know who owns the zip code for Wall Street (that sucks! it's not me )

As for persistent, just wanted to offer my view and perhaps help educate some folks along the way. I am by no means a domain guru but I like watching and monitoring trends. This trend started to really pick up steam in the past few weeks and I began to look into it.

Just wanted to share my thoughts and observations.

MinionDH

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nombre

circa
i never took any of your posts as hostile or negative in spirit at all
if i labeled you as persistent in your argument, then i too am persistent in my responses
if we continue this dialogue/debate it is certainly in the spirit of fun and respect
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as to your site: ceuq.com ...excellent, brilliant and you have suceeded in branding it very well

i think we are largely in agreement

where we differ i think is that i assert that numbers require extra special work to brand, not that they can't be branded, but they require work since they have no inherent meaning (apologies to pythagoras)

even ceuq.com, though you are right, at first i wouldn't have gotten it, but i well know what a ceu is and when you add the "quick" part, it becomes easy to remember, that is simply not the case with a random NNNN.mobi

take a number 6729.mobi, doesn't spell any english word, how are you going to sell that, market that or brand it .... i maintain that it will be rolling around in the end users brain unless you find a way to make it stick which ain't easy

take any LLLL.com .... even ceuq.com can be made memorable by attaching a nonsense meaning to the letters ... carrots end unusual qualms or whatever

does that make sense?

it's partly why i made the post earlier where i wondered if the numbers were taken for some specific business value or need and were not really intended to be re-sold as end user websites

seanboy

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jagusa

Well, now that the NNNN.mobis are gone. What do you think is next to go?

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I don't think there is anything left, there are way way to many LLLL.mobi and NNNNN.mobi for them to be gone anytime soon if ever.
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At this point you are on the mobi boat or you missed it... unless you have some time to spend with OVT and I mean some serious time.

accent

Ahhhh.... but you can pick any available name you want, develop a killer site with it and leave us parkers in the dust.

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MCDomains

Wow ... fast sell-out. Reminds me of the final days of the LLL.mobi's.

Glad I snagged a few nice ones very early on. 1500, 1200, 7500

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I think all cell phones will have a keyboard like the BlackBerry, so numbered domains might not be as great as people think they will be. What do you guys think?

I would personally rather type pizza then figure out what numbers are associated with the word pizza. This is of course on a cell phone with a mini keyboard (like the BB). Just my 2 cents.

mjnels

ive actually tried to match up the numbers to letters on my blackberry a couple of times when i needed to dial a 1-800-WORD number.. couldnt visualize where they were all supposed to go, had to hold a standard phone in my hand to figure it out.

circa1850

You have a point but not sure we're looking on the larger scale of things.

We're thinking and talking English. Some of the new cell phones, mobile devices, and keyboard technology in Asia don't have english letters. They contain Chinese and Japanese characters. So numbers will have a totally different meaning to them when they correspond to characters. But numbers will still be numbers, in any language.

I would also like to type pizza. But until the cellular services start getting rid here in the states start getting rid of their 1 and 2 year contracts, I won't have anything like that. Sure, I can learn text messaging. But I hardly use my cell phone. (I know, I know...I must be a freak of nature)

The conflict I see may be this. You own PIZZA.MOBI, I own 74992.MOBI (pizza). I envision all mobile devices to be GPS enabled to allow real time locating and locations. No matter where you are, you dial PIZZA and the nearest pizza joint displays. I dial 74992 and the nearest PIZZA joint displays. Is this a conflict? Or is this a good combination? Needless to say, if phones are that smart, it depends on how they are going to be programmed and stored in memory.

Makes me also think that the person who owns PIZZA.MOBI might, just might, want 74992. Maybe...maybe not.

Yes, Pizza is strong and stands on it's own. 74992 does nothing but sits there. Until it is branded, marketed, and used. I see no better extension for numbers than here. People pay big bucks for NNN.com and NNN.net. For what? What are they using them for? For bragging rights and the sake of ownership. Again, we're talking and interpreting numbers that mean something to us, perhaps something totally different to other cultures.

I own 2337.net. I can't touch BEER.NET, BEES.NET, BEDS.NET, BEEP.NET or ADDS.NET for any amount of money perhaps. But there is no web site for any of these. Only redirects. I need to get off my ass and off these forums and develope a website for beers of the world importing and exporting and use my 2337.net domain. Or sell home brew kits and use this as part of the phone number. I wish I had the time to develop all of my domains. With the right mix of ads and backlinks, there is no doubt this could become successful. The only real competition and true site devoted to its title is BEES.com and a French site ADDS.com.

It will take work for any extension. But I think the .mobi is the more logical place for numbers. I'm just saying there is marketability in the numbers for what they are...numbers. These numbers just happen to be keypads for letters.
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Gotta go, Dominoes calling?

Stay tuned for more information.

Trends. Think trends. Hot and cold trends. Think what is hot and apply it. Look at the market. Look at domain extensions. I am not sure anything is coming on as strong at the moment behind .com other than .mobi.

There are still many more boats at the dock being loaded up and have not departed yet.

I'll be back.

Jo

I regged one: 1416

The reason: it has Toronto's area code (1-416.) My thinking is that it would be a great site for a business and tourist phone book for the Toronto area. There are scripts that NPer's found that if a visitor to your site clicks on the number or link you have listed - their phone will dial the number. Toronto businesses may want to pay for that service once .mobi is mainstream. This of course could work for any of the ones you people regged, if you have any 1NNN mobi's (or NNN of course.)

1john2004

I think that the next will be CVCV.mobi. They are going really fast

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circa1850

Clever. That's what it is going to take. Some creativity and looking ahead. That's the ticket!

nombre

i agree, it's a good idea

if you really serious about the development work on this, if it were me i'd back up your plan by purchasing 1-426.mobi also which is available

good luck

surpassstone

It's a good place here and I can get so many ideas here.

Shall we image such case:
If 627538(market).mobi is branded one day, will people think about all other nnnn-associations.
I mean only one branded sites with nnnn.mobi might benefit all other n..n.mobi
How dou you think about this?

circa1850

I think anything is possible and probable.

We are talking numbers. That is what they are. It is MARKET to us but I have no idea what it would be in other cultures. Like I mentioned, numbers are universal in their own right but the english alphabet and spelling is not.

I own 2446373 which can be it's own phone number 244-6373 (without the hyphen of course) which equates CHINESE in english. No matter where you are, you dial a number and order Chinese food or the China Embassy or any thing China/Chinese related. Now how much do you think it would have cost me to buy CHINESE.MOBI on today's market. Several thousand $$$$ I am sure. Or 8253688 (825-3688=TakeOut). No roaming charges, no 1 plus zip code. That's it. Just like dialing your home phone number. Sure, it needs to be branded as such, but once it is programmed it is done.

Plus, it will not only be a number but will represent a web address and that web address can be you. For instance, you will not need 10 numbers to reach you but only the 6 you already have.

A few developed sites will be the start of things. I was never a big believer in .tv until today I saw www.bud.tv. Very funny site and enough to get things going.

Just a few will get the ball rolling. I like the idea of the 1xxx for the area code of Toronto.

You never know where these things (ideas) may end up or where they will lead to.

mjnels

i just got off the phone with the person who bought all the remaining 5,000 NNNN.mobi a few months ago.. they are not done.

MinionDH

meaning they're now buying NNNN.mobi on the aftermarket? if so, i've got 100+ nice ones that I'm willing to sell at a bulk rate

mjnels

yes.. i will update this thread in a couple weeks, might even be a month but stay tuned.

surpassstone

Good news!
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