The NNNN .mobi countdown - Page 2

nombre · 02-15-2007, 05:11 PM

i personally believe that LLLL.mobi will be bigger than LLLL.com just because there's no other extension option

but as far as NNNN.mobi vs say, NNNNN.mobi, what's the big deal about an extra number ?

in the case of LLLL part of the value is realated to the acronym value or the pronounceable value

but in the case of numbers, i'm not so sure that NNNN.mobi is all that different from NNNNN.mobi

i'm beginning to think it would be better to have a really good NNNNN than a so-so NNNN

any opinions ?

Danny25 · 02-15-2007, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by nombre

i personally believe that LLLL.mobi will be bigger than LLLL.com just because there's no other extension option
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/283301-the-nnnn-mobi-countdown.html

but as far as NNNN.mobi vs say, NNNNN.mobi, what's the big deal about an extra number ?

in the case of LLLL part of the value is realated to the acronym value or the pronounceable value

but in the case of numbers, i'm not so sure that NNNN.mobi is all that different from NNNNN.mobi

i'm beginning to think it would be better to have a really good NNNNN than a so-so NNNN

any opinions ?

us zip codes are NNNNN

so you might have a point.

I have never ben a fan of any random domains. I know they have value I have always just failed to see the value of something like g9j.com

MinionDH · 02-15-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by thinking1

I predict by next Monday Morning all NNNN.mobi's will be gone.

I'll predict 3 weeks from today: Thursday March 8th, 2007

accent · 02-16-2007, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by Danny25

.....
I have never been a fan of any random domains. I know they have value I have always just failed to see the value of something like g9j.com

Regarding random NNNN.mobis two markets that come to mind are building addresses - use the same number for your address as for your website, and that China and other countries have a very large number of characters in their written language, so a numeric domain is much easier to remember - and everybody worldwide uses the same numbers, some write them differently, but the numbers are the same.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

There are only 10,000 NNNN.mobis, that is over 1/3 less than the number of LLL.mobis. The only reason there are some still available is that few have noticed them.

wangjinhk · 02-16-2007, 01:45 AM

Oh,cutdown so quickly~

fautebol · 02-16-2007, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by nombre

i personally believe that LLLL.mobi will be bigger than LLLL.com just because there's no other extension option

but as far as NNNN.mobi vs say, NNNNN.mobi, what's the big deal about an extra number ?

in the case of LLLL part of the value is realated to the acronym value or the pronounceable value
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

but in the case of numbers, i'm not so sure that NNNN.mobi is all that different from NNNNN.mobi

i'm beginning to think it would be better to have a really good NNNNN than a so-so NNNN

any opinions ?

I somehow agree with you regarding NNNN versus NNNNN and it's why I don't have any NNNN.mobi. But, when I looked at them yesterday, I saw that it's very concentrated in the hands of a few. Thus, if there is demand, particularly in the secondary market, price could go up quickly.

nombre · 02-16-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Regarding random NNNN.mobis two markets that come to mind are building addresses - use the same number for your address as for your website, and that China and other countries have a very large number of characters in their written language, so a numeric domain is much easier to remember - and everybody worldwide uses the same numbers, some write them differently, but the numbers are the same.

Quote:

I somehow agree with you regarding NNNN versus NNNNN and it's why I don't have any NNNN.mobi. But, when I looked at them yesterday, I saw that it's very concentrated in the hands of a few. Thus, if there is demand, particularly in the secondary market, price could go up quickly.

good points from both of you
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

i am a domaining newbie and i constantly forget that there is no inherent value in any kind of domain, but rather, it's a matter of what the market wants

the market is not necessarily logical and can be manipulated by a variety of factors

if the market decress that NNNN.mobi is worth a lot more than NNNNN.mobi then that will be it

circa1850 · 02-16-2007, 04:42 PM

On January 21, 2007 I ran a scan of available NNNN.mobi domain names. At the time of that scan there were 6,621 NNNN combinations remaining.

As of today, just a few moments ago, I re-ran the scan and the tally is 2,696.

I am no expert on .mobi but I have some observations to relate.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

In my opinion, no one extension is more appropriate to numbers than the .mobi. Mobile devices, such as cell phones, PDA’s and others, outnumber PC’s on a scale of 3 to 1 internationally and will continue to outpace their computer counterparts. Society on a global scale is going smaller, more efficient, and simply more mobile.

All cell phones, needless to say, have numerical keypads. In the future this may not be the case as more voice activated technology and recognition systems become commonplace along with an alpha keyboard of sorts. Even with a voice activated system, numbers will still be used in speech.

Numbers are universal in scope whereas the alphabet as we know it is not. Language barriers will prevent universal acceptance and recognition of words whereas numbers will not change in their meaning.

All LLL.mobi and NNN.mobi are taken.

In addition, needless to say the hot common and generic words are taken.

NNNNN.mobi is an option but for those that are thinking zip codes, these are either all taken or reserved for that very purpose.

So where does that leave the .mobi number market?

In fine shape.

Each number on the phone keypad represents letters with the exception of the numbers 1 and 0. I have written on this previously but it bears worth repeating as now we find the availabitly of the NNNN.mobi market nearly 60% less than it was about three weeks ago.

Look at your phone and instead of seeing numbers, see words. Here are a couple of handy tools.

www.t9.com will convert numbers into letters
www.whi.ms contains a list of all remaining NNNN.mobi
http://www.math.utoronto.ca/jjchew/s...s/twl98-4.html is a four letter word list.

So you have the tools, time to start building. Using these tools and looking at the numbers remaining, rather than just have numbers have numbers that have some meat to it. For instance, ODDS.mobi was already registered. This would be a great sports betting site.

6337.mobi was not. This is the numeric equivalent to the word ODDS. For most cell phones that do not have an alpha keypad, to me, it would be much easier for someone to tell me to dial 6337 (ODDS) rather than to simply say call ODDS. You would still have to look at the numeric keypad and hunt for the letters corresponding to the number and you end up inputting numbers to begin with.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

Look at like those late night commercials that tell you, “CALL 1-800-TALK”. They usually have the number located above or below the text…8255.

Another couple of points I would like to make. Unless you simply want to register an NNNN.mobi for the sake of registering a .mobi, I would recommend not selecting on that begins with the number 0. If you were to put in 0 as the first number, you may end up getting the operator. So there is another 55 numbers you can eliminate from the current list. Also, the 1 is usually reserved as a punctuation key. If you don’t mind your alpha translation starting with the number 1 that represents a period (.) on the alpha pad, then that is another 158 on the current list that starts with the number that you can potentially eliminate.

Basically, the way I view it is numbers for the sake of numbers is one thing. But numbers that can easily convert to text? Now that’s something to consider.

nombre · 02-16-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

6337.mobi was not. This is the numeric equivalent to the word ODDS. For most cell phones that do not have an alpha keypad, to me, it would be much easier for someone to tell me to dial 6337 (ODDS) rather than to simply say call ODDS. You would still have to look at the numeric keypad and hunt for the letters corresponding to the number and you end up inputting numbers to begin with.

circa, very helpful post and interesting post, a couple of things in response
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

we have talked about this before and i reiterate what i have said before, there will be a significant challenge to overcome by selling a numbers based site using a corresponding word, partly because i think most people dislike having to look at the keypad and translate it in to numbers, they have remembered "oh yeah, it's odds ... i just spell out odds by the numbers" i'm not saying in any way that they won't do it, just that they don't like to (which is why almost all the sites that are like "800 got-milk" always put the numbers in parentheses so people don't have to do the translation) second, there remains the promotional issue where you advertise yourself as "5555.mobi ...rember folks thats "milk.mobi" or whatever, you are going to be dealing with a _lot_ of confusion between the word that stands for the number and the actual 4 letter domain )"milk=5555.mobi vs. milk.mobi)

i'm not saying that NNNN.mobi are a bad thing, i can see a lot of advantages, may of which you have pointed out

like a lot of people i spent time trying to match up 800/888 numbers to possible mobi names, big problem, it's not easy to find a match

e.g. the guy who owns 3569377.MOBI (flowers) will probably be unable to get 888 356-9377 or any of the other free prefixes

i'd like to hear some concrete ideas about how people are using marketing and memnonics (sp?) to sell number based domains apart from spelling it on the keypad what are some other ideas for selling and remembering NNNN.mobi's ?

thinking1 · 02-16-2007, 07:24 PM

Ok, how many are left? I want to know if it's time for me to buy up the rest of the list.

shopperx · 02-16-2007, 10:31 PM

There are only 2,600 NNNN.mobi left, i just finished the scan.

I remember i ran the same scan on November and there were +9K left, that was fast...

You can download the available list from:

http://www.shxp.net/NNNN.mobi.txt

I think they will be gone for next weekend, if a big investor makes a move they could be gone starting the next week.

shopperx

circa1850 · 02-17-2007, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by nombre

i'd like to hear some concrete ideas about how people are using marketing and memnonics (sp?) to sell number based domains apart from spelling it on the keypad what are some other ideas for selling and remembering NNNN.mobi's ?

Somebody is obviously doing something out there with these, we just have not found them yet. I have several, all parked at Sedo and some are actually getting hits. On one has actually given a PPC of 16 cents. Although this is a small assessment on the grand scale of things, the fact that this is coming from type in traffic is itself encouraging.

I have also registered several short words that are also getting some traffic.

I am running a scan of the 15000 most common english words to see what's left in .mobi. I do not have any fast way of doing this so it is very time consuming. I would like to post this.

If anyone knows of a site dedicated to doing a bulk search (upload about 500 names at once) solely for the mobi extension, please pass it on.

I know there has been much hype in the past over everynew extension, but I have never seen one take off with so much success in such a short period of time. I would have thought that the development of mobi compliant sites was at least a year off.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

The www.t9.com site teaches people how to use their phone numeric keypad to enter words. Oddly enough, several people that have no clue what the hell a domain name is already know about the t9 site and say,"oh yeah. I used that" when I ask them how they text message. (I am a rare breed who has no clue how to do this. I do not live on my cell phone as if it was an extension of my anatomy. I think rattlers and pacifiers are a thing of the past. Now they are born clutching a motorola blackberry compliant phone and sucking on a blue tooth compatible earpiece/microphone)

By the way, I anticipate these numbers going fast. This has been posted on another forum. And with the registration going to one year and most offering reg fees for $12.95...yup, they'll go fast.

circa1850 · 02-17-2007, 03:07 AM

Just for the heck of it, I re-ran the list.

The current count is 2,561, down from 2,692 in about 10-11 hours time since my post.

fautebol · 02-17-2007, 05:49 AM

Does someone knows the general meaning regarding each number in China? I know about 8 and 4, but nothing regarding the others.

circa1850 · 02-17-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by fautebol

Does someone knows the general meaning regarding each number in China? I know about 8 and 4, but nothing regarding the others.

Just to let you know, you're not being ignored but I have no sources on this and was actually waiting for someone else to jump in on this. I also knew about the 8 but not necessarily the other numbers.

fautebol · 02-17-2007, 01:13 PM

Thanks circa. I found this afterwards on wikipedia, but I am not totally sure about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture

(at least there are interesting articles in the external links to show that Chinese are ready to pay for some numbers)

mjnels · 02-17-2007, 01:37 PM

list updated... only 2,511 left.. about 800 were reg'd in 2 days

fautebol · 02-17-2007, 02:28 PM

And now only 2414 left...

circa1850 · 02-17-2007, 04:35 PM

Many skeptics here and on DNF. But the bottom line is once they are taken they are taken.

Heads up:Trying to complete my scan of the 15,000 most common used english words available in dot mobi. Very slow going. Has to look at many sources. I found a faster bulk searcher but the error rate was exceptionally high (greater than 50%). So it is back to a slower mode but 100% accurate in my findings.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

Incredible as it may seem, tons of great words overlooked and still available. As an example, I regged CHATTED.MOBI this a.m. Nothing major or earth shattering, but fits mobi so well. So this could be the second land "rush".

My tips once I do put this list out: Yes, they are common dictionary words but look for ones that deal with a mobile society and any business related terms that deal with the same. Regging words for the sake of regging words will not be the ideal thing. Look for words with punch and meaning and substance to a particular market that you want to reach...teenagers, business, global enterprises, etc. Any thing that makes life convenient and makes .mobi make even more sense.

NewYorkBum · 02-17-2007, 07:56 PM

I have to say that decent names(numbers) are taken long time ago. Almost every half decent word i checked was taken back in September or October 2006.

creekway · 02-17-2007, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by fautebol

Does someone knows the general meaning regarding each number in China? I know about 8 and 4, but nothing regarding the others.

Paxton has a good thread about this, check it out:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...light=nnnn.com

circa1850 · 02-17-2007, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by NewYorkBum

I have to say that decent names(numbers) are taken long time ago. Almost every half decent word i checked was taken back in September or October 2006.

I think you would be surprised.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

I just looked at my list of words (thus far) and have regged CHATTED.mobi and EMPLOYS.mobi. Thought one was good for a teen thing or mobile seller/reseller site and the other for a job market search.

Have only managed to get through the letter G thus far and working on letter H currently.

seanboy · 02-17-2007, 10:45 PM

I have these:

8255.mobi (talk)
72346.mobi (radio)
872835.mobi (travel)
786257.mobi (stocks)
843367.mobi (videos)
668437.mobi (movies)
62228.mobi (macau)
10005.mobi (zip code of wall street)

I regged them on Oct. 11. Definitely a big gamble with these. It will be interesting to see what happens.

shopperx · 02-18-2007, 02:12 AM

I got 6973.mobi which means nypd, nyse, etc..

circa1850 · 02-18-2007, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by shopperx

I got 6973.mobi which means nypd, nyse, etc..

This is why I say these may be (or may not be, none of us can see the future) worthwhile pursueing.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301

Whoever regged NYSE.COM knew exactly why they regged it. And you probably could not buy it if it was for sale.I

f you have a cell phone and unless you can text and go back and forth between numbers and letters with ease, the quickest way to dial this is 6973.

I like it

02-16-2007, 01:45 AM	#30 (permalink)
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02-16-2007, 07:24 PM	#35 (permalink)
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02-16-2007, 10:31 PM	#36 (permalink)
shopperx http://domains.shxp.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 557	There are only 2,600 NNNN.mobi left, i just finished the scan. I remember i ran the same scan on November and there were +9K left, that was fast... You can download the available list from: http://www.shxp.net/NNNN.mobi.txt I think they will be gone for next weekend, if a big investor makes a move they could be gone starting the next week. shopperx __________________ Poker Domains \| Gambling Domain Appraisal Tool \| Gambling Domain Sales History \| Gambling Domain Trends

02-17-2007, 05:49 AM	#39 (permalink)
fautebol NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 315	Does someone knows the general meaning regarding each number in China? I know about 8 and 4, but nothing regarding the others. __________________ fcn.mobi 3dg.mobi beachvolley.mobi audioguides.mobi landed.mobi snowchains.mobi adpage.mobi infomobi.mobi logy.mobi TAKING OFFERS NOW. Last edited by fautebol; 02-17-2007 at 05:54 AM.

02-17-2007, 01:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
fautebol NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 315	Thanks circa. I found this afterwards on wikipedia, but I am not totally sure about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture (at least there are interesting articles in the external links to show that Chinese are ready to pay for some numbers) __________________ fcn.mobi 3dg.mobi beachvolley.mobi audioguides.mobi landed.mobi snowchains.mobi adpage.mobi infomobi.mobi logy.mobi TAKING OFFERS NOW.

02-15-2007, 05:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
nombre NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 638	i personally believe that LLLL.mobi will be bigger than LLLL.com just because there's no other extension option but as far as NNNN.mobi vs say, NNNNN.mobi, what's the big deal about an extra number ? in the case of LLLL part of the value is realated to the acronym value or the pronounceable value but in the case of numbers, i'm not so sure that NNNN.mobi is all that different from NNNNN.mobi i'm beginning to think it would be better to have a really good NNNNN than a so-so NNNN any opinions ?

02-16-2007, 04:42 PM	#33 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	On January 21, 2007 I ran a scan of available NNNN.mobi domain names. At the time of that scan there were 6,621 NNNN combinations remaining. As of today, just a few moments ago, I re-ran the scan and the tally is 2,696. I am no expert on .mobi but I have some observations to relate. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301 In my opinion, no one extension is more appropriate to numbers than the .mobi. Mobile devices, such as cell phones, PDA’s and others, outnumber PC’s on a scale of 3 to 1 internationally and will continue to outpace their computer counterparts. Society on a global scale is going smaller, more efficient, and simply more mobile. All cell phones, needless to say, have numerical keypads. In the future this may not be the case as more voice activated technology and recognition systems become commonplace along with an alpha keyboard of sorts. Even with a voice activated system, numbers will still be used in speech. Numbers are universal in scope whereas the alphabet as we know it is not. Language barriers will prevent universal acceptance and recognition of words whereas numbers will not change in their meaning. All LLL.mobi and NNN.mobi are taken. In addition, needless to say the hot common and generic words are taken. NNNNN.mobi is an option but for those that are thinking zip codes, these are either all taken or reserved for that very purpose. So where does that leave the .mobi number market? In fine shape. Each number on the phone keypad represents letters with the exception of the numbers 1 and 0. I have written on this previously but it bears worth repeating as now we find the availabitly of the NNNN.mobi market nearly 60% less than it was about three weeks ago. Look at your phone and instead of seeing numbers, see words. Here are a couple of handy tools. www.t9.com will convert numbers into letters www.whi.ms contains a list of all remaining NNNN.mobi http://www.math.utoronto.ca/jjchew/s...s/twl98-4.html is a four letter word list. So you have the tools, time to start building. Using these tools and looking at the numbers remaining, rather than just have numbers have numbers that have some meat to it. For instance, ODDS.mobi was already registered. This would be a great sports betting site. 6337.mobi was not. This is the numeric equivalent to the word ODDS. For most cell phones that do not have an alpha keypad, to me, it would be much easier for someone to tell me to dial 6337 (ODDS) rather than to simply say call ODDS. You would still have to look at the numeric keypad and hunt for the letters corresponding to the number and you end up inputting numbers to begin with. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301 Look at like those late night commercials that tell you, “CALL 1-800-TALK”. They usually have the number located above or below the text…8255. Another couple of points I would like to make. Unless you simply want to register an NNNN.mobi for the sake of registering a .mobi, I would recommend not selecting on that begins with the number 0. If you were to put in 0 as the first number, you may end up getting the operator. So there is another 55 numbers you can eliminate from the current list. Also, the 1 is usually reserved as a punctuation key. If you don’t mind your alpha translation starting with the number 1 that represents a period (.) on the alpha pad, then that is another 158 on the current list that starts with the number that you can potentially eliminate. Basically, the way I view it is numbers for the sake of numbers is one thing. But numbers that can easily convert to text? Now that’s something to consider.

02-17-2007, 03:07 AM	#38 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Just for the heck of it, I re-ran the list. The current count is 2,561, down from 2,692 in about 10-11 hours time since my post.

02-17-2007, 01:37 PM	THREAD STARTER #42 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	list updated... only 2,511 left.. about 800 were reg'd in 2 days

02-17-2007, 02:28 PM	#43 (permalink)
fautebol NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 315	And now only 2414 left... __________________ fcn.mobi 3dg.mobi beachvolley.mobi audioguides.mobi landed.mobi snowchains.mobi adpage.mobi infomobi.mobi logy.mobi TAKING OFFERS NOW.

02-17-2007, 04:35 PM	#44 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Many skeptics here and on DNF. But the bottom line is once they are taken they are taken. Heads up:Trying to complete my scan of the 15,000 most common used english words available in dot mobi. Very slow going. Has to look at many sources. I found a faster bulk searcher but the error rate was exceptionally high (greater than 50%). So it is back to a slower mode but 100% accurate in my findings. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=283301 Incredible as it may seem, tons of great words overlooked and still available. As an example, I regged CHATTED.MOBI this a.m. Nothing major or earth shattering, but fits mobi so well. So this could be the second land "rush". My tips once I do put this list out: Yes, they are common dictionary words but look for ones that deal with a mobile society and any business related terms that deal with the same. Regging words for the sake of regging words will not be the ideal thing. Look for words with punch and meaning and substance to a particular market that you want to reach...teenagers, business, global enterprises, etc. Any thing that makes life convenient and makes .mobi make even more sense.

02-17-2007, 07:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
NewYorkBum NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 239	I have to say that decent names(numbers) are taken long time ago. Almost every half decent word i checked was taken back in September or October 2006.

02-17-2007, 10:45 PM	#48 (permalink)
seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,212	I have these: 8255.mobi (talk) 72346.mobi (radio) 872835.mobi (travel) 786257.mobi (stocks) 843367.mobi (videos) 668437.mobi (movies) 62228.mobi (macau) 10005.mobi (zip code of wall street) I regged them on Oct. 11. Definitely a big gamble with these. It will be interesting to see what happens. Last edited by seanboy; 02-18-2007 at 02:59 PM.

02-18-2007, 02:12 AM	#49 (permalink)
shopperx http://domains.shxp.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 557	I got 6973.mobi which means nypd, nyse, etc.. __________________ Poker Domains \| Gambling Domain Appraisal Tool \| Gambling Domain Sales History \| Gambling Domain Trends

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