150 Domain tips - Page 5

Smiler · 07-17-2007, 04:39 PM

What about the Yahoo Domain Search? There was one time that I was looking for a domain and I found one really good one. I decided not to register it because I was hoping that I could find a better name. After 10 minutes of scrutinizing about the name and doing a littler research, someone had snatched it and I could no longer register it. Can this be possible using Yahoo?

Notius · 07-17-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by MinionDH

*Focus on cashflow*
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Instead of buying hundreds of names at reg fee - buy 1 solid generic name with traffic (preferably .com - be sure to avoid TMs). Park the name, save the monthly revenue, and then use the money to buy another name with traffic. If you sell the occasional domain, again, use the money to buy another name with traffic. Keep repeating and you will have solid portfolio and steady income.

"Follow the traffic. Follow the money" -Frank Schilling

I am interested in buying my first solid domain name. What is the best way of going about buying a generic traffic domain? Does any of the more experienced members have any recommendations or examples of what criteria you use before you consider buying?

mirza · 07-20-2007, 04:35 AM

you win some you lose some... you'll never know unless you try hey!

greyfox · 07-20-2007, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Notius

I am interested in buying my first solid domain name. What is the best way of going about buying a generic traffic domain? Does any of the more experienced members have any recommendations or examples of what criteria you use before you consider buying?

I am going to ask the same question as Notius. I look on sedo and see traffic stats and doubt much of it.... Same with godaddy. Just checked ebay as well. I have some low traffic domains but want something with traffic. I am ready to spend money on real domain names just need a little insight.

clocker24 · 07-28-2007, 05:51 PM

greyfox, my highest grossing domains are high-traffic domains that I bought at Sedo. I bought one for $1,000, and I earned about $10 a day off it until I sold it for $5,000. I bought another for $500 and 1 year later it continues to make at least $2 or $3 a day.

On the other hand, I bought one for $300 and I have had a lot of trouble monetizing it. The traffic is real, but I can't seem to optimize it in a way that gets clicks. It does earn more than its reg fee, at least.

One problem is that the Sedo ownership transfer process is excruciating. It can literally takes months after you've made your payment until you get control over the domain.
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Also, Sedo sellers have gotten more savvy and prices have climbed since even a year ago. But you can still get good deals. Just be picky.

Originally Posted by VURG

Buy names you like. It's just more enjoyable that way. Don't buy names you don't like just because lots of other people do.

Absolutely Vurg, and to that I would add, buy domains relating to subjects that you know about. I live in Panama, and my hobbies are chess, travel and martial arts, so I buy domains related to those subjects because it keeps me interested, I am better able to recognize a good domain, and I am better at monetizing them.

Poring over long lists of expiring domains is not quite so dull when it's a subject that you're interested in.

jstowell · 07-30-2007, 04:23 PM

Why do the domain registrars have .info's on sale everywhere?

loko123 · 08-11-2007, 10:45 PM

info domains are not so exploited, godaddy had some time ago a big sale at 0.99 $ info domains, now it is at 2.99 $. so info domains are starting to get rare. hopefully that domain extension will get more popular in the future.

-REECE- · 08-12-2007, 03:14 AM

Spend your whole first month (at least!) reading about the domain name market... Understand why prices are the way they are. Look up current trends and attempt to extrapolate. Definitely do not spend all your money starting out on a few good names. You'll probably end up getting ripped off and the whole domain experience will become sour for you. Rather, do as Nametrader said... Keep thinking of ideas, researching new trends, areas of interest, and checking expired domain lists. Only reg the very best ones you're able to find. Try and sell these names. Are you able to sell them? Do you now have a reasonable grasp on the potential value a name has under usual circumstances? Take that knowledge you've acquired over your first month or two... Now, consider investing in a quality .com. Don't get suckered into spending x,xxx on a different tld or worse -- a cctld. You're new -- you need things simple... And it doesn't get simpler than .com

When considering investing in a good .com, ask yourself what's important to you. Do you need the revenue that could be generated from a parked name? Are you interested in finding a name which has a high ppc value and could easily be developed into a profitable site?

Ask yourself why you want/need this particular name. Think long and hard about it. Think of the best ways to monetize this name. Stay away from names with traffic stats... Get a good .com that "sells" itself on it's own merit. Traffic stats can be easily forged and we really don't want to worry about all that this early in the game.

When it comes to making your first large investment, after having decided what you plan on doing with it (parking, developing, reselling, etc), try and figure out a ballpark figure of how much money you'll be able to generate off this name. It doesn't have to be exact -- it won't be exact. But having an idea of around how much you can make, is a good way to start planning for the future. My recommendation -- a LLL.com, a couple premium CVCV.com or a good dictionary word .com. Don't get fooled into paying exhorbitant prices for a name just because it's listed in a dictionary... Do as some of the other people here have recommend and shop around. Look at names listed on Sedo, Afternic, and other domain name exchanges. When looking at these exchanges, take the prices with a grain of salt. It's easy for anyone to ask $10k usd for a shoddy name. It's not what you ask for it... It's what you can get for it. Check resources such as NameBio and DnJournal. These provide a concrete sales history. Unlike Sedo, these are not asking prices -- these are what names have sold for in the past. You can use tools such as Estibot and Premium Domain (Domain Score) to compare a name to another one or attempt to guage the value of a name in question. Don't pay prices based on what these free services report. Rather, look at the value reported and attempt to understand why the automated program reported the value that it did. High prices reported by automated programs are no guarantee that your name is great -- but be extremely weary if the name you're paying xxxx for is reported as being worth reg fee (you get the idea) by Estibot, or non premium by Premium Domain. If it isn't premium or scores low on Estibot's valuation, ask yourself why that is. Is it something new that hasn't hit mainstreasm yet (think of wikis or blogs a few years back)? A low valuation does not necessarily imply that you're being ripped off, rather that you should proceed with caution.

Definitely toss all your profits back into additional names. If you have deep pockets you can now begin looking for a second name (still sticking with .com at this point). If not, get your name monetized (however you choose to do it) asap so you can start saving towards your next name.

Use this downtime (if you're like most people) to further expand your knowledge of domaining. Read up on the latest trends (and always continue doing such...). These change fast, so don't think that what was hot 2 months ago is necessarily the real deal today.

Since you probably will have a few months before your name generates enough money to consider investing in another .com, start learning about the other markets available to you. Since your money supply is limited, you won't be able to buy premium .coms week after week (duh!). You're likely still not ready to experiment with speculative extensions like .tv, .mobi, most cctlds, LLLL.com (not CVCV/VCVC), so don't go there. The biggest way a newbie can be burned is by getting into speculative extensions when they don't have the requisite knowledge and appreciation of domaining to truly grasp the liquidity of this market. Since your money supply is limited, you need names that are either liquid, generate a steady stream of income, or optimally, both. This means you should focus on .coms and premium .nets only, for the time being. As you gain more experience and a thorough understanding of the value of .coms and .nets (and hopefully a fatter bank account!), you can slowly move into markets that aren't as liquid. Start with .info... Good .infos aren't that hard to sell. Once you get the hang of waiting a bit longer for sales -- and having enough money that you can afford to wait on sales, you can start investing in speculative extensions. Rule #1 of investing... Never invest more than you can afford to lose. We can all agree that a LLL.com, premium 1 word generic .com, etc are solid investments, likely to go nowhere but through the stratosphere in years to come. The same cannot necessarily be said about speculative extensions.

Nobody really knows whether .mobi will become the mobile standard, whether .tv will become synonymous with online video, whether LLLL.coms will appreciate as CVCV.coms have, whether CVCV.net will follow in Big Brother's footsteps, etc. These investments have an inherent risk that investing in the former does not have. Do not consider investing in these extensions until you have a thorough knowledge of domaining, an understanding of liquidity, and an understanding of the risks involved with making large investments in speculative extensions. I would never put more than 20% of my investment in a speculative extension -- it's just too much money to potentially lose -- not to mention the fact that speculative extensions can be a plague for anyone who doesn't understand the importance of spreading registrations throughout the year. Zero liquidity (or near zero) means that you end up selling your names at a loss (or under what you presume to be their market value), because you need the money. Don't fall into this trap. Don't invest more than you can afford -- especially if investing in speculative extensions.
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That sure was alot to digest! Okay... I promise I'm almost done

Here's a few more tips to consider when entering domaining...

1. Length -- how long is your domain name? One word domains are usually easier to sell and sell for higher amounts than 2 word domains from the same sector.

2. Pronouncability -- Is it easy to pronounce, or is pronouncing the name really stretching it? Prounouncability leads right into...

3. Memorability -- how easy is it to remember this name? A memorable name is generally a non-hyphenated name, composed of 1 or 2 words which go well together. Stay away from numbers -- especially the use of numbers as letters (such as one and 1) to form words. A memorable name probably has...

4. Brandability -- Could a company center a product or website around this name?

5. Grammatical Tense -- Use a tool, such as Wordtracker to ensure you use the right one. What seems like the most used tense to you may be different from how the rest of the world sees it. Also use Wordtracker to identify whether the term is more popular in it's plural or singular form.

6. USPTO.GOV is your friend -- remember that! Don't be a n00b and get into TM or typosquatting. You can make plenty of money in domaining without stooping to that level.

7. TLD/ccTLD -- What extension is it? I use a 1/10/30 rule for .com, .net, .info -- meaning that I first attempt to determine the approximate value of a .com, then, I associate approximately 10% of that value as a maximum value of the .net and then assign one third of the .net value (or 1/30 of the .com value) to the .info. I use these as maximum prices I would pay. So if I feel a particular .com is worth 100k, I wouldn't value the .info at more than around 3k in example. Seeing as I want to make a profit, I wouldn't consider going higher than 2.5k under such a scenario. As for offering... Most domainers are pretty reasonable to other domainers (i.e. dealing with another NPer). If I'm dealing with a individual who I'm not sure if they're a domainer or not, I'll typically start off by offering them 10% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay for their name (in the above case, that would be $250). If they know me and I know them, I'll usually start off around 40-50% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay. No matter what you offer on your first offer, people will generally figure that your first offer usually isn't your best offer (and usually it isn't), so keep this in mind when beginning negotiations -- leave room to negotiate.

8. Target Market -- Who exactly is going to buy your name? If it's a generic .com or LLL.com, okay, you need not worry. But what if it's not? Obviously the larger the target market, the better. A name like health.com is worth more than a name like healthstore.com for several reasons -- but 1 of they key reasons is because health.com has a bigger target market (as well as greatly increased traffic, but that's another matter). How many potential endusers would this name have?

9. Traffic -- The big T! No traffic, no money. Easy as that. If you're name receives no traffic whatsoever, the only way you'll be able to generate income is by selling it. This makes it a less attractive option than buying a name which receives plenty of free traffic even when it hasn't been developed.

10. Plan for the future -- Hedge your investments and hedge them well my friend! You can't predict the future (at least you can't

), so prepare for it in advance. Use strategies such as diversification to minimize risk. If you plan on investing some of your money in speculative extensions, put at least twice that amount in solid .coms, so as to minimize the damage done should your investment in speculative extensions not pan out. Don't forget to spread out those renewal dates -- that can be a killer!

11. Keep coming back to Namepros. There's always new stuff to learn!

SharonTucci · 08-12-2007, 12:54 PM

Great suggestions Reece!

Spade · 08-12-2007, 01:00 PM

Excellent Post Reece... That post alone should be a "Read me first" in the Domain Newbies section.

amarventris · 08-12-2007, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Damion

A good tip i picked up in another thread a while back:
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Try to spread your renewal dates as much as you can, it sucks to let domains go that you don't want to let go simply because the total of renewals in one month is to much to cope with.

you mean scurrying aorund various cnames to find the original registrar admin email isn't the sport of domain kings?

PowerUp · 08-20-2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Spade

Excellent Post Reece... That post alone should be a "Read me first" in the Domain Newbies section.

Yes, I agree. Better yet, make the background of the thread light red so it catches the attention.

mbuna · 08-28-2007, 01:48 PM

Great post Reece, rep given.

DomainBELL · 09-04-2007, 04:13 AM

I'd like to see TIPS on how to find domains with traffic...
specific tools and resources for that...

that would make a great "How To" post for anyone reading this thread...

I don't do traffic domains... so I have no clue... or I would share
the information myself... smile...

~DomainBELL (Patricia)

Yefim247 · 09-07-2007, 05:33 AM

Very informative post, Thanks Reece.

john_karr · 09-07-2007, 08:50 AM

great advise

mike1023 · 09-07-2007, 11:13 AM

Hi all,

My theory on this is always to sell a concept along with the domain. For example, purchase a domain with the development concept packed into it. If you have a domain called 10status.com that could be sold with a complete outline of a user rating community website along with development guidelines.

I guess the tip is nothing special only to build value in your specific domain.

-REECE- · 09-07-2007, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by mfdanna

Hi all,

My theory on this is always to sell a concept along with the domain. For example, purchase a domain with the development concept packed into it. If you have a domain called 10status.com that could be sold with a complete outline of a user rating community website along with development guidelines.

I guess the tip is nothing special only to build value in your specific domain.

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Look at how domainers selling on ebay often include logos matching their names, ideas and images that suit the name, lists of comparable sales, etc. Anything you can provide at minimal expense which adds value to your name is a great recommendation.

freediver · 09-16-2007, 03:09 AM

If you are beginner do not rush into buying. You will not know to tell the difference between good and bad names and will invest a lot of money. Read forums, then come back after two weeks. There will be always some names to register.

accent · 09-17-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by DomainBELL

I'd like to see TIPS on how to find domains with traffic...
specific tools and resources for that...

that would make a great "How To" post for anyone reading this thread...

I don't do traffic domains... so I have no clue... or I would share
the information myself... smile...

~DomainBELL (Patricia)

Bingo.

All so many times I hear "buy domains with traffic - Newbees should spend $$$$ on one solid traffic domain"

Sorry, Charlie. A newbe w/$$$$ to spend on a domain is super-prime sucker bait. As far as I can see traffic domains rarely change hands unless:
A. You fight it out with Bonkers et al on Snapnames
B. You develop your own unconventional sources - such as cold calling domain owners hoping they do not know what they have.
C. You pay a lot more than the traffic is worth.

Sorry about the cynicism, I looked for traffic names when I began -every one I found for sale had fake traffic. I buy for development and price appreciation, that seems to be working.
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The traffic advice was probably right on a few years ago. I do not see it now.

-REECE- · 09-17-2007, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

Bingo.

All so many times I hear "buy domains with traffic - Newbees should spend $$$$ on one solid traffic domain"

Sorry, Charlie. A newbe w/$$$$ to spend on a domain is super-prime sucker bait. As far as I can see traffic domains rarely change hands unless:
A. You fight it out with Bonkers et al on Snapnames
B. You develop your own unconventional sources - such as cold calling domain owners hoping they do not know what they have.
C. You pay a lot more than the traffic is worth.

Sorry about the cynicism, I looked for traffic names when I began -every one I found for sale had fake traffic. I buy for development and price appreciation, that seems to be working. The traffic advice was probably right on a few years ago. I do not see it now.

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Agreed. The only kind of "traffic" I would buy is direct navigation traffic from a .com with a good wordtracker. Super easy to forge traffic stats and I wouldn't think for a second of buying a name for X,XXX based on traffic stats alone unless the seller was someone I had done a whole lot of business with in the past... Alot of genuine traffic names are selling for 10x revenue or more. It just doesn't make financial sense to buy traffic names at 10x (or higher) rev (without dev plans or specific endusers in mind), knowing you can get 20%+ returns in energy stocks pretty easily for the time being...

Web Master · 09-18-2007, 01:26 PM

If you can read, write and speak other languages, your domains appear to have much more marketplaces and much more potential buyers. Go more selling!

PremiumDotCom · 09-23-2007, 08:43 PM

What is a CVCV.com / LLLL.com ?

Mobi Cheap · 09-23-2007, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by PremiumDotCom

What is a CVCV.com / LLLL.com ?

I trust you are not pulling our collective leg here :-)

LLLL = a domain composed of 4 letters (not 4 characters, as the latter includes numbers and hyphens); XYZQ.com is a LLLL.com, X360.com is not.

CVCV = a LLLL domain composed of any Consonant Vowel Consonant Vowel combination (e.g. BECA.com)

As for tips as such, I'll need to read this whole thread before I share my original pearls of wisdom.

bricio · 09-23-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by PremiumDotCom

What is a CVCV.com / LLLL.com ?

CVCV stands for consonant, vowel, consonant, vowel
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LLLL stands for letter, letter, letter, letter

actually these r 4 letters domains dot com... we refer to them as LLLL but we can have CVCV, VCVC, CVVC, VCCV, 3 vowels and 1 consonant, 4 vowels or 4 consonants

hope this help

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-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	Spend your whole first month (at least!) reading about the domain name market... Understand why prices are the way they are. Look up current trends and attempt to extrapolate. Definitely do not spend all your money starting out on a few good names. You'll probably end up getting ripped off and the whole domain experience will become sour for you. Rather, do as Nametrader said... Keep thinking of ideas, researching new trends, areas of interest, and checking expired domain lists. Only reg the very best ones you're able to find. Try and sell these names. Are you able to sell them? Do you now have a reasonable grasp on the potential value a name has under usual circumstances? Take that knowledge you've acquired over your first month or two... Now, consider investing in a quality .com. Don't get suckered into spending x,xxx on a different tld or worse -- a cctld. You're new -- you need things simple... And it doesn't get simpler than .com When considering investing in a good .com, ask yourself what's important to you. Do you need the revenue that could be generated from a parked name? Are you interested in finding a name which has a high ppc value and could easily be developed into a profitable site? Ask yourself why you want/need this particular name. Think long and hard about it. Think of the best ways to monetize this name. Stay away from names with traffic stats... Get a good .com that "sells" itself on it's own merit. Traffic stats can be easily forged and we really don't want to worry about all that this early in the game. When it comes to making your first large investment, after having decided what you plan on doing with it (parking, developing, reselling, etc), try and figure out a ballpark figure of how much money you'll be able to generate off this name. It doesn't have to be exact -- it won't be exact. But having an idea of around how much you can make, is a good way to start planning for the future. My recommendation -- a LLL.com, a couple premium CVCV.com or a good dictionary word .com. Don't get fooled into paying exhorbitant prices for a name just because it's listed in a dictionary... Do as some of the other people here have recommend and shop around. Look at names listed on Sedo, Afternic, and other domain name exchanges. When looking at these exchanges, take the prices with a grain of salt. It's easy for anyone to ask $10k usd for a shoddy name. It's not what you ask for it... It's what you can get for it. Check resources such as NameBio and DnJournal. These provide a concrete sales history. Unlike Sedo, these are not asking prices -- these are what names have sold for in the past. You can use tools such as Estibot and Premium Domain (Domain Score) to compare a name to another one or attempt to guage the value of a name in question. Don't pay prices based on what these free services report. Rather, look at the value reported and attempt to understand why the automated program reported the value that it did. High prices reported by automated programs are no guarantee that your name is great -- but be extremely weary if the name you're paying xxxx for is reported as being worth reg fee (you get the idea) by Estibot, or non premium by Premium Domain. If it isn't premium or scores low on Estibot's valuation, ask yourself why that is. Is it something new that hasn't hit mainstreasm yet (think of wikis or blogs a few years back)? A low valuation does not necessarily imply that you're being ripped off, rather that you should proceed with caution. Definitely toss all your profits back into additional names. If you have deep pockets you can now begin looking for a second name (still sticking with .com at this point). If not, get your name monetized (however you choose to do it) asap so you can start saving towards your next name. Use this downtime (if you're like most people) to further expand your knowledge of domaining. Read up on the latest trends (and always continue doing such...). These change fast, so don't think that what was hot 2 months ago is necessarily the real deal today. Since you probably will have a few months before your name generates enough money to consider investing in another .com, start learning about the other markets available to you. Since your money supply is limited, you won't be able to buy premium .coms week after week (duh!). You're likely still not ready to experiment with speculative extensions like .tv, .mobi, most cctlds, LLLL.com (not CVCV/VCVC), so don't go there. The biggest way a newbie can be burned is by getting into speculative extensions when they don't have the requisite knowledge and appreciation of domaining to truly grasp the liquidity of this market. Since your money supply is limited, you need names that are either liquid, generate a steady stream of income, or optimally, both. This means you should focus on .coms and premium .nets only, for the time being. As you gain more experience and a thorough understanding of the value of .coms and .nets (and hopefully a fatter bank account!), you can slowly move into markets that aren't as liquid. Start with .info... Good .infos aren't that hard to sell. Once you get the hang of waiting a bit longer for sales -- and having enough money that you can afford to wait on sales, you can start investing in speculative extensions. Rule #1 of investing... Never invest more than you can afford to lose. We can all agree that a LLL.com, premium 1 word generic .com, etc are solid investments, likely to go nowhere but through the stratosphere in years to come. The same cannot necessarily be said about speculative extensions. Nobody really knows whether .mobi will become the mobile standard, whether .tv will become synonymous with online video, whether LLLL.coms will appreciate as CVCV.coms have, whether CVCV.net will follow in Big Brother's footsteps, etc. These investments have an inherent risk that investing in the former does not have. Do not consider investing in these extensions until you have a thorough knowledge of domaining, an understanding of liquidity, and an understanding of the risks involved with making large investments in speculative extensions. I would never put more than 20% of my investment in a speculative extension -- it's just too much money to potentially lose -- not to mention the fact that speculative extensions can be a plague for anyone who doesn't understand the importance of spreading registrations throughout the year. Zero liquidity (or near zero) means that you end up selling your names at a loss (or under what you presume to be their market value), because you need the money. Don't fall into this trap. Don't invest more than you can afford -- especially if investing in speculative extensions. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=279987 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=279987 That sure was alot to digest! Okay... I promise I'm almost done Here's a few more tips to consider when entering domaining... 1. Length -- how long is your domain name? One word domains are usually easier to sell and sell for higher amounts than 2 word domains from the same sector. 2. Pronouncability -- Is it easy to pronounce, or is pronouncing the name really stretching it? Prounouncability leads right into... 3. Memorability -- how easy is it to remember this name? A memorable name is generally a non-hyphenated name, composed of 1 or 2 words which go well together. Stay away from numbers -- especially the use of numbers as letters (such as one and 1) to form words. A memorable name probably has... 4. Brandability -- Could a company center a product or website around this name? 5. Grammatical Tense -- Use a tool, such as Wordtracker to ensure you use the right one. What seems like the most used tense to you may be different from how the rest of the world sees it. Also use Wordtracker to identify whether the term is more popular in it's plural or singular form. 6. USPTO.GOV is your friend -- remember that! Don't be a n00b and get into TM or typosquatting. You can make plenty of money in domaining without stooping to that level. 7. TLD/ccTLD -- What extension is it? I use a 1/10/30 rule for .com, .net, .info -- meaning that I first attempt to determine the approximate value of a .com, then, I associate approximately 10% of that value as a maximum value of the .net and then assign one third of the .net value (or 1/30 of the .com value) to the .info. I use these as maximum prices I would pay. So if I feel a particular .com is worth 100k, I wouldn't value the .info at more than around 3k in example. Seeing as I want to make a profit, I wouldn't consider going higher than 2.5k under such a scenario. As for offering... Most domainers are pretty reasonable to other domainers (i.e. dealing with another NPer). If I'm dealing with a individual who I'm not sure if they're a domainer or not, I'll typically start off by offering them 10% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay for their name (in the above case, that would be $250). If they know me and I know them, I'll usually start off around 40-50% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay. No matter what you offer on your first offer, people will generally figure that your first offer usually isn't your best offer (and usually it isn't), so keep this in mind when beginning negotiations -- leave room to negotiate. 8. Target Market -- Who exactly is going to buy your name? If it's a generic .com or LLL.com, okay, you need not worry. But what if it's not? Obviously the larger the target market, the better. A name like health.com is worth more than a name like healthstore.com for several reasons -- but 1 of they key reasons is because health.com has a bigger target market (as well as greatly increased traffic, but that's another matter). How many potential endusers would this name have? 9. Traffic -- The big T! No traffic, no money. Easy as that. If you're name receives no traffic whatsoever, the only way you'll be able to generate income is by selling it. This makes it a less attractive option than buying a name which receives plenty of free traffic even when it hasn't been developed. 10. Plan for the future -- Hedge your investments and hedge them well my friend! You can't predict the future (at least you can't ), so prepare for it in advance. Use strategies such as diversification to minimize risk. If you plan on investing some of your money in speculative extensions, put at least twice that amount in solid .coms, so as to minimize the damage done should your investment in speculative extensions not pan out. Don't forget to spread out those renewal dates -- that can be a killer! 11. Keep coming back to Namepros. There's always new stuff to learn! Last edited by Reece; 08-12-2007 at 05:26 AM.

08-12-2007, 12:54 PM	#109 (permalink)
SharonTucci Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,005	Great suggestions Reece! __________________ Domainate.com - coming soon :)

08-12-2007, 01:00 PM	#110 (permalink)
Spade NameBio.com Founder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 7,855	Excellent Post Reece... That post alone should be a "Read me first" in the Domain Newbies section. __________________ Read my Blog! NameBio.com - Search The Domain Sales Index Buying LLLL.com's ending in "CA"

07-20-2007, 04:35 AM	#103 (permalink)
mirza Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8	you win some you lose some... you'll never know unless you try hey!

07-30-2007, 04:23 PM	#106 (permalink)
jstowell New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	Why do the domain registrars have .info's on sale everywhere?

08-28-2007, 01:48 PM	#113 (permalink)
mbuna NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WI, USA Posts: 463	Great post Reece, rep given. __________________ Tropical Fish - Renewable Energy - Banner Exchange - Tropical Fish Items - Avoid Domain Scammers

09-04-2007, 04:13 AM	#114 (permalink)
DomainBELL DNOA Founding Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio - USA Posts: 1,298	I'd like to see TIPS on how to find domains with traffic... specific tools and resources for that... that would make a great "How To" post for anyone reading this thread... I don't do traffic domains... so I have no clue... or I would share the information myself... smile... ~DomainBELL (Patricia) __________________ VeryFastCash.com ------ For Sale Offers Considered.. What's NEW with me... My Whats New Section - BLOG DomainBELL.com/WhatsNew/ -- Twitter: DomainBELL

09-07-2007, 05:33 AM	#115 (permalink)
Yefim247 NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 345	Very informative post, Thanks Reece.

09-07-2007, 08:50 AM	#116 (permalink)
john_karr NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 813	great advise

09-07-2007, 11:13 AM	#117 (permalink)
mike1023 Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 349	Hi all, My theory on this is always to sell a concept along with the domain. For example, purchase a domain with the development concept packed into it. If you have a domain called 10status.com that could be sold with a complete outline of a user rating community website along with development guidelines. I guess the tip is nothing special only to build value in your specific domain.

09-16-2007, 03:09 AM	#119 (permalink)
freediver NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 29	If you are beginner do not rush into buying. You will not know to tell the difference between good and bad names and will invest a lot of money. Read forums, then come back after two weeks. There will be always some names to register. __________________ Vladimir's Blog

09-18-2007, 01:26 PM	#122 (permalink)
Web Master Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: www.Shelter-Your-Domains.zor.org Posts: 1,570	If you can read, write and speak other languages, your domains appear to have much more marketplaces and much more potential buyers. Go more selling!

09-23-2007, 08:43 PM	#123 (permalink)
PremiumDotCom NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 51	What is a CVCV.com / LLLL.com ?

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