.mobi Is .MOBI a thing of the past?

MJ · Apr 28, 2008

Hey guys.. just browsing through the .mobi forum and thought I'd say hi. My goal is not to crush anyones hopes or dreams, but I just have to ask the question: do you think .mobi will boom and be more popular from here?

Cell phones are advancing day by day, and many cell phones in the US already have regular access to the world wide web. From your cell phone, you can access google.com, yahoo.com, cnn.com, etc etc... and see the full page just as though you were using your PC. You can now download full images, video and more.

If I can get to these main sites now on my regular web browser in my phone, why would anyone use WAP? This is more sites for them to remember. Should I go to fun.mobi today or fun.com? We are now creating two indepentant world wide webs, and only limited by the device you are browsing from.

Dont know.. just a thought. WAP was great back in the day when phones didn't have web browsers. Now phones are very high tech. I doubt anyone using the iPHONE has ever went to a WAP site. I sure wouldn't.

So then what about .mobi? Is it a think of the past? Are sales going to start rolling off when people realize there is nothing special about .mobi? Just some thoughts and opinions of mine. Thanks for listening, and I encourage your feedback (I really don't know that much about .mobi).

coast · Apr 29, 2008

acronym007 said:
There is no TECHNICAL difference between .com and .mobi it is only marketing. .Com pages can auto-detect and redirect to a mobile webpage fit to your screen. Don't buy the hype. .TV is nothing different, it doesn't improve TV viewing or anything techincally different. If I owned a TV station I would a .tv, it's good to have options but don't buy hype that .mobi does something special.

That is not actually true. There are transcoding features built into .mobi that are not built into .com. Right now Vodaphone UK and Sprint PCS in the US are advising .com site owners to get on their whitelist or create a second m.something.com or something.com/wap site to be seen on a phone, or to use a .mobi. I have this confirmed by a mobile advertising company and posted this under another thread.

labrocca · Apr 29, 2008

I would advise anyone in .mobi or otherwise to think carefully about names that make sense and would provide a valuable service if developed.

I been saying the same thing since day one. Domainers for the most part are poor developers. This imho has hurt the extension and will continue to do so until that's changed.

One only has to look over the first few months of mobi release to see the pure crap being registered. Names that have zero mobile potential.

do you think .mobi will boom and be more popular from here?

No..I do no think it will continue to boom. The mobile web doesn't need mobi to grow.

Wow.. from your responses it seems like I am not the only one who has had this idea. Nice to know, maybe it shows something. Thanks for confirming my theory. Maybe new domainers will get some insite from this and realize not to invest in .mobi.

Exactly. One has to wonder why the same group of people stand by mobi so hard...could it be they have invested heavily?

If you want more information about mobi, you may wish to check out dedicated mobi forums that exist. If you want to know the url, pm me.

Is the URL a secret? Mobility ain't hard to find...just tell people to search for "mobi forum" at Google. It's #1 result. I was thinking of joining just to see how fast they ban me. I bet I get banned before making a single post.

That is not actually true. There are transcoding features built into .mobi that are not built into .com.

I am trying to get more information about this. Is it a newer feature that mTLD implemented? From the research I have conducted I can't find anything stating this is a .mobi feature. From what I see...it's something built into phones or browsers.

http://dev.mobi/blog/content-transcoding-and-operator-perspective

bfluid · Apr 29, 2008

Back in the day (6 months ago) .mobi was going strong on hype!

Then all the money supporting that hype wasn't seeing a return due to people finding another get rich quick market.

Now .mobi is correcting itself. And guess what? The correction is still decreasing the values greatly and it will continue until they are almost all close to worthless. Because this is the worst tld ever created by the ICANN group, except for .museum and a few others lol.

Mobile phones in 5 years will all come standard with a bigger pixelated screen and internet will be cheap as ever on them.

If you own any... sell now.

It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not for a tld to be just for mobile phones. It matters that nobody uses it.

namewaiter · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
Back in the day (6 months ago) .mobi was going strong on hype!

Then all the money supporting that hype wasn't seeing a return due to people finding another get rich quick market.

Now .mobi is correcting itself. And guess what? The correction is still decreasing the values greatly and it will continue until they are almost all close to worthless. Because this is the worst tld ever created by the ICANN group, except for .museum and a few others lol.

Mobile phones in 5 years will all come standard with a bigger pixelated screen and internet will be cheap as ever on them.

If you own any... sell now.

It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not for a tld to be just for mobile phones. It matters that nobody uses it.

well look at the big brain on brad.

everyday more and more companies are rolling into .mobi ... it's their collective marketing dollars that will give .mobi the exposure needed, not what we discuss here in a domain name forum.

bfluid · Apr 29, 2008

namewaiter said:
well look at the big brain on brad.

everyday more and more companies are rolling into .mobi ... it's their collective marketing dollars that will give .mobi the exposure needed, not what we discuss here in a domain name forum.

You are 100% right in saying that "it's their collective marketing dollars that will give .mobi the exposure needed". But for every 1 company you show me using a .mobi site I can show you 10+ (minimum) that use mobile.example.com or example.com/mobile. I have yet to see the first company market to me their .mobi site (except namepros.mobi). And trust me, I don't live in a cave. Yet many sites have marketed to me their example.com/mobile/. Soon they won't have to give me their .mobi and I can go to their site directly. Your phone will be a computer in 5yrs-ish.

And if all of these company's that you are saying are rolling into the .mobi industry... why have LLL.mobi fallen in half? And why has interest in .mobi altogether become next to a ghost town?

This is and has been a dieing market. Save your money and your words and get out of .mobi as soon as possible.

IMO

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

Worse case is that .mobi turns into just another tld -- then, it's a matter of where it falls --- I would guess it would end up in a .info-like market -- the perfect fits will do well. Brandables and such -- not so good.

bfluid said:
...Your phone will be a computer in 5yrs-ish.

hawkeye · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
But for every 1 company you show me using a .mobi site I can show you 10+ (minimum) that use mobile.example.com or example.com/mobile. I have yet to see the first company market to me their .mobi site (except namepros.mobi).

Zagat.mobi, BofA.mobi, HSM2.mobi, Wachovia.mobi.
Now list your 10+ for each one of them... (if you can back your own rambling statements.)

bfluid said:
Yet many sites have marketed to me their example.com/mobile/.

Please provide us these examples so we can see too.

bfluid said:
And trust me, I don't live in a cave.

...uh, you sure??

Such insight from those that ask for 'Free domains'..

Steven · Apr 29, 2008

I'm going to leave the cell phone, browser technology and advancement in coding talk for now.

I'm going to address the goal of the .mobi
Any person going to .mobi is supposed to feel safe as .mobi is supposed to be a tld that supports mobile device friendly websites right?

I've gone through first five pages in google for only .mobi sites:
"site:.mobi"
I've input all the 50 sites in mtld emulator
Here are the stats:

3 are mobile device friendly websites
1 is a mobile device friendly for sale website
46 are not mobile device friendly/doesn't load

I think the mTLD should enforce their rules better imo.

bfluid · Apr 29, 2008

I have been advised not to post in the .mobi section due to excessive fighting that has occurred in the past. I can see why now.

And at that "Such insight from those that ask for 'Free domains'.." statement. Haha... I don't free domains and I don't ask for them in my sig. I don't need any names. But someone have me 7 domains the other day, that I can now sell for about $50. Those who don't make opportunities available don't receive the reward from them. I have thousands of dollars in domain names. I have thousands in the stock market. I have thousands in the bank. I have thousands invested in various things. No need for me to get free names. But why not? I mix my sig up all them time. This is just what I decided to do with it for the past little bit.

So don't go lowering my reputation and making my statements worthless just because you don't think I have enough money in the dn market to go anywhere.

I'm done in this thread.

Bye.

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

I completely agree.

mrdomainman said:
I think the mTLD should enforce their rules better imo.

hawkeye · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
I have been advised not to post in the .mobi section due to excessive fighting that has occurred in the past. I can see why now.

Ok, so you come into the mobi forum, trash it and challenge it with your 'I can show you's', then when you get asked to show or prove your stated reasonings, you go and blame things on 'fighting in the mobi section' and huff off. Good Grief. Read your own postings and see who got riled up in their posts!! yup.. you!

Well.., ...bye!

Kate · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
And if all of these company's that you are saying are rolling into the .mobi industry... why have LLL.mobi fallen in half? And why has interest in .mobi altogether become next to a ghost town?

I think there has been a correction indeed and the hype has settled a little bit. I have to say the constant cheerleading was sickening

Now it looks like a lot of companies have no intention of switching to mobi, so I think the extension will not be a gold standard in the mobile space like .com is. And it will be remembered as just another TLD.

qO_Op · Apr 29, 2008

mrdomainman said:
I've gone through first five pages in google for only .mobi sites:
"site:.mobi"

Try "site:.mobi inurl:.mobi"

labrocca · Apr 29, 2008

hawkeye said:
Ok, so you come into the mobi forum, trash it and challenge it with your 'I can show you's', then when you get asked to show or prove your stated reasonings, you go and blame things on 'fighting in the mobi section' and huff off. Good Grief. Read your own postings and see who got riled up in their posts!! yup.. you!

Well.., ...bye!

Here is 20 for ya. Some pretty big names and this was just 5 minutes of research and only for mobile version..imagine the m.domain.com's too. You're assumption that he he doesn't want to argue means his argument is wrong is false.

www.google.com/mobile/
mobile.yahoo.com
adobe/mobile/
mobile.myspace.com/
www.mtv.com/mobile/
www.sonypictures.com/mobile/
www.youtube.com/mobile
www.weather.com/mobile
www.vh1.com/mobile/
mobile.thenation.com/
mobile.aol.com
mobile.craigslist.org/
mobile.reuters.com
sportsline.com/mobile
www.foxnews.com/mobile/ (despite fox.mobi they still use mobile)
boston.com/mobile/
www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/
money.cnn.com/services/mobile
www.denverpost.com/mobile
www.news.com.au/mobile

You want some truth...here ya go.

http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=US&ts_mode=country&lang=none

The top 15 (all I tried) alexa sites from USA...NONE use mobi. Some redirect to an mdot version and others to a /mobile. But NONE...not one..uses their mobi. Some don't even own their mobi version. A few don't even resolve.

My favorite...MSN and LIVE. Wasn't Microsoft a mTLD "backer"? lol

Your handful of companies convinced to use a mobi doesn't amount for much in the grand scheme of things.

If someone wants to waste more time...go through the rest of the Alexa top 100 and see how many use a mobi.

hedgefund · Apr 29, 2008

the thread should be locked. we have gone through this a numerous times.

RJ · Apr 29, 2008

m.existingdomain.tld is not going anywhere, nor will .MOBI be vanishing. Both a perfectly valid options for URLs and will continue to be. IMHO the former is a better fit for websites with an existing Internet presence, while .MOBI is perfect for new projects that are mobile in their focus.

So in that respect, .MOBI is not a thing of the past. It's relevant to today's Internet as one of several options for developers of mobile websites. Despite mTLD's effort, there won't ever be a single standard that everyone adopts.

Steven · Apr 29, 2008

vJRB said:
Try "site:.mobi inurl:.mobi"

Thanks

Much better .mobi sites with mobi format results :]

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

No, it's good to let people vent. Giving the anti-everything people something to do keeps them away from other mischief.

hedgefund said:
the thread should be locked. we have gone through this a numerous times.

hedgefund · Apr 29, 2008

Great point! .mobi is just another tld that is targeted for mobile devices, but other tlds can do mobile also.

thebiffenator · Apr 30, 2008

Why are people so bitter over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just a regular TLD with no purpose right? But who cares if .mobi is Global and Mobile at the same time?

Why do people fear .mobi? That is the main question...??? And for people that say there is no need for .mobi (only proves that they are scared) :talk: (no offense) But Scared of What????

That said Basicly theres no need for any other extenstion since a .com can do that as well with any other extension! But guess what....Some people missed the boat!

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