I tried the first one, but it only gave me an advert to their site without any counter
I'd forgotten about Bravenet. I've been a member for a long time. Although they have many nice tools, I kinda went off them because they weren't unobtrusive enough for my taste. I'll take a look at their counter again though.
I also looked up another old service I'd used in the past.
www.StatCounter.com. The stat collection was similar to Bravenet, although the counter was pretty basic. I kinda liked the refer stats. I'm using it as a hidden counter until I find something better.