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With the sell out of LLLL.com and potentially LLLL.net it's a wonder that Russian LL.com (that's right 2 letter domains) are still available. There are only 1089 Russian LL.coms in existence - with only 299 currently available.

Countdown:
Feb 5, 2008 - 299
Mar 22, 2008 - 147



So, I thought I'd start this thread to get the word out. You can find a list of the currently available domains at IDNs.ws. You can find a picture of the Russian keyboard layout here.

I believe all the double premiums are taken, but there are plenty of single premium domains available. My thoughts (please note I am not a Russian speaker, but this is my opinion based on over 2 years of researching Russian domains) on premium letters are:

Premium Letters - а, б, в, г, д, е, и, к, л, м, н, о, п, р, с, т, у, ф

Fair Letters - ж, з, х, ц, ч, ш, э, ю, я, щ

Poor Letters - й, ы, ё

Not Really Letters - ъ, ь (these are actually consonant modifiers, but may work as the second letter)

Please note this is just my opinion.
 
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AfternicAfternic
Where is the best place to register these? Wish I knew Russian so that I could figure out what I will try to register ;)
 
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nicedomains said:
Where is the best place to register these? How much is a .ru, no citizenship requirements right? Wish I knew Russian so that I could figure out what I will try to register ;)
These are all .com. You can register at many of the popular registrars - Dynadot, Moniker, Enom, Domainsite, even GoDaddy.
 
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I speak russian.
Few Q&As:
- Is anything nice left in LL? No.
- Is it interesting for russian users? Crap that is left is not.
- Why did I buy 6 crap domains today? This one is not easy to answer. In general I do not like IDNs. However, with the LLLL buyouts, LL sounds interesting. I do not see much value in the domains I bought today except for being LL.
- Are there any acronyms possible? letter + ы usually can not be an acronym, as there are no words starting with ы. there are also no word starting with ь and ъ. there are not much words starting with щ, ч, ё.
- Pronouncibility. letter + ы, ё, э usually can be pronounced, although no one using ы after ч ок щ for expmple. You can pick for this purpose ды, лы, ны for example. чэ also possible. But please note that the prounancibilityis really strange, these are not real russian words rather strange sounds which makes a cow eating the grass :)

ч is pronounced as ch.
щ is pronounced something like as tsh or tsch. terrible sound, in other word. I would not take it unless you have a russian word in mind for an acronim. The few onces are i.e. щука - jackfish, щека - cheek.
I personnally do not like letter щ.

Anyway, I would call buying these remaining domains as very very high speculative. I see more value if you try to take real russian words from a dictionary and reg them. However, it is also may be questionable, because there are plans to make a IDN zone for russia - .рф, and I rather would expect google to direct visitors entering russian letters/words in address line of the browser to .рф rather than .com. Just wait 6-12 months, there will be more new abount exact implementation details of this project.

Russian (I think as well as all other) IDNs are supported by .com and .net only. .ru and .su (both russian) are not supporting IDN.

you as a nonresident/nonrussian may freely reg the .ru and .su but it is more difficult to transfer it, you need to write a letter to registrars if you want to transfer your domains to other persons. I expect the situation with a new .рф yone will be sililar, you will not be able to transfer domains electronically.

I expect national idns (i.e. russianword.рф will be more popular in Russian comparing to russianword.com).

All these makes any investment in russian IDN highly risky. Well, on the other hand, it can bring good returns :)


Please ask questions, if you have any, in this thread. I will try to answer them, please note however I do not always have enough time to do it. Once again regarding the remaining domains or the ones you have - everything nice was regged long time ago, now only crap is left, so please do not ask me what is better, чэ or ны :)

Vlad
 
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vlad74 said:
I took

ЗЫ.COM
ГЫ.COM
СЫ.COM
ПЫ.COM
ЧЁ.COM
БЁ.COM

That is it. There is nothing interesting left. ЗЫ, is used as a slang among young russian kids/teenagers, same with ГЫ. ЧЁ is from the same rank, it's short of "What ?"
vlad74 took some decent leftovers, to the rest of you, don't waste your money. None of the others pronounceable or meaningfull.
 
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Very nice information. Rep added.

Was trying to see if there were any scraps.
 
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I agree the names remaining are not great, but they are still two letter. When English two letters were still available I bet people said "what's the point of qz.com or yq.com?"

Even fairly meaningless combinations would be great email addresses in the future. They are short and memorable. I would not advocate buying the combinations beginning with ы, ъ, or ь but the other ones will have value in the future. How much value is anybody's guess.

Who would have thought that LLLL.com and LLLL.net (not completely sold out yet I believe) would sell out? There are over 450,000 combinations of each. There are only 1089 combinations of Russian LL.com - much more rare and a safer bet IMO.
 
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thefabfive said:
I agree the names remaining are not great, but they are still two letter. When English two letters were still available I bet people said "what's the point of qz.com or yq.com?"

Even fairly meaningless combinations would be great email addresses in the future. They are short and memorable. I would not advocate buying the combinations beginning with ы, ъ, or ь but the other ones will have value in the future. How much value is anybody's guess.

Who would have thought that LLLL.com and LLLL.net (not completely sold out yet I believe) would sell out? There are over 450,000 combinations of each. There are only 1089 combinations of Russian LL.com - much more rare and a safer bet IMO.


the problem is that the extensions are in ascii characters which is good for english speakers and not for russian who would choose idn extensions as soon as they will be available, I was tempted and thanks for your info but I decided to stay out of it.
 
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Other viewpoints are great for a lively discussion.

To quote a famous domainer - "It's a .com world".

And Russian speakers have been using ASCII.ASCII for years now. I think the move from .ru to .рф will happen, but I'm unconvinced it will dominate .ru or .com anytime soon.
 
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I grabbed гщ.com as it was one of the better ones remaining (One good and one medium letter)
Your thoughts, thefabfive?
 
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The focus right now seems to be on "short" domains. Domainers have bought out all of the more than 450,000 LLLL.coms. With only 1089 Russian LL.com it seems like a no-brainer to me that these will someday be very lucrative. Granted the premium combinations are long gone.

Personally, I would rather own these Russian domains than a "short" .net or "short" dashed domain (L-L-L, LL-L, L-LL, or whatever).

Edit - picked up ны.com. was planning on ощ.com also but someone beat me to it.
 
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Quite a bit has gone on since the last post. Over 100 more Russian LL.com have been registered. For the most recent scan check IDNS.ws/rll.htm.

Currently there are 147 Russian LL.com remaining. Broken up in three categories as follows:

Russian LL.com excluding ь, ъ, ё, and starting ы: 40 remaining

Russian LL.com with ё: 5 remaining

Russian LL.com with ъ, ь, or starting ы: 102 remaining
 
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Rubber Duck said:
I am going to regret this no doubt but I believe the entire Georgian Alphabet is still available as single letter dot coms. It seemed to be last time I looked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_alphabet

Thanks for information, Rubber Duck. I do not know Georgian language, but decided to reg 4 domains. No idea if it was good or bad choice. I took:

ა.COM
გ.COM
ქ.COM
ბ.COM

By the way, there is a thread called Short Domain Buyout Info , you could also post this information there. :D
 
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I grabbed several of the gergian alphabet thanks

Also snagged δζ.com a greek 2 letter IDN Delta Zeta go search that :)
 
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Are there any 1 letter IDN .com left? In any alphabet?
 
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Seeing as there are very few (if any?) words starting with ъ, ь, or ы there really is no value in these remaining domains.
 
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Pound said:
Seeing as there are very few (if any?) words starting with ъ, ь, or ы there really is no value in these remaining domains.
I agree. They were mainly included for completeness.

The worthwhile investments IMO are in the first and second groups. But not much left in those (about 43 or so) and what is left was left for a reason.
 
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just bought my frist 2 idn names.. :D

ёа.com
ёо.com
 
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I just bought 1-letter Georgian one lol.

Probs will be rare in the future :)
 
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