.US value of LLL.us - Page 5

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 01:32 PM

Recently Ebay SOLD

FVP.US $189
CJZ.US $102.46
YRE.US $227 (RESERVE NOT MET)
DBX.US 157.50

If you take just these 4 that were on ebay just recently, the average is about $168.
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Take out the reserve and you are right at $149.65

Now, eBay can hardly be seen as a bench mark for domain names, but I think $150 is a dead issue.

Surprised that CJZ went as low as it did. Seems like it would have good appeal to the JEEP CJ crowd. But, that's just me and MHO.

What I want to know, is which one of you offered to buy all my three letter domains (LLL's) for $30.00 each when I was selling on ebay a few weeks ago?

When I made you the same counter offer, there were some serious grammatical errors and typos in your response. You transposed You and the F word (you put you first) and misspelled bastard (there is no e in bastard).

mikesherov · 12-14-2006, 01:42 PM

OK, I give up! $150 it is.

Nevermind that DBX has two good letters (especially DB in that order), I consider FVP to have zero bad letters (hell, I'm the one who bought that name for the $190), and if you look at CZJ.us, it has 2 bad letters and barely broke $100!

Look, sell them for whatever you want. I want to see those prices going up! I want everyone to get $150 for LLL.us regardless of the letter! We should all prosper in this market. If I'm the only one who thinks something, then the perception becomes reality, and I'm wrong. I am just looking at the facts about the current sales, and that's what I see.

Quick question: Can you guys give me your current value on ITR.us? I'm curious to see what you guys are placing as it's current going price according to your models?

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 01:44 PM

hehe, mate im with you on this, the market is definitely not at 150, its at 115ish, but decent letters can bring in anything just depends how much the buyer wants it

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by mikesherov

I want to see those prices going up! I want everyone to get $150 for LLL.us regardless of the letter, because that means I'm finding them below market price!

YIPPEE! DONE! AGREED!

mikesherov · 12-14-2006, 01:47 PM

Just realized how harsh I'm sounding in this thread. My apologies if I seem combative, I'm just passionate about this market. Either way, I hope we all prosper, and that the pricing models we all use result in many fruitful sales.

Still, I'd like that appraisal of ITR.us from anyone generous enough to offer it.

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 01:48 PM

ITR i would put at 250ish, premium lettered ones with good google results are very hard to come by

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by mikesherov

Quick question: Can you guys give me your current value on ITR.us? I'm curious to see what you guys are placing as it's current going price according to your models?

I have no model. I don't think there are any bad letters when you talking LLL.us. I think some letters are better than others but none to scare me aware.

I look at the end user potential and what I can make out of the acronym.

You got the country code for ITaly, the common reference for Internet Technology, a common one sylable English word IT, so the rest is up to the viewer to come up with something for the R seeing that the rest is a given.

A solid $150.00 to $200.00 performer. Again, there is that $150 minimum.

But, let's not forget Income Tax Return which, to the right end user and start up company or online preparer, you are looking perhaps a $500.00 reserve. Who knows where it would go from there if it was marketed as such. A portal to each and every State as well as Federal forms and info?
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BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by circa1850

I have no model. I don't think there are any bad letters when you talking LLL.us. I think some letters are better than others but none to scare me aware.
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I look at the end user potential and what I can make out of the acronym.

You got the country code for ITaly, the common reference for Internet Technology, a common one sylable English word IT, so the rest is up to the viewer to come up with something for the R seeing that the rest is a given.

A solid $150.00 to $200.00 performer. Again, there is that $150 minimum.

But, let's not forget Income Tax Return which, to the right end user and start up company or online preparer, you are looking perhaps a $500.00 reserve. Who knows where it would go from there if it was marketed as such. A portal to each and every State as well as Federal forms and info?

BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!

you say that the minimum pricing on LLL.us is 150 then you price this one up at 150! strange logic to say the least

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by irishmat

you say that the minimum pricing on LLL.us is 150 then you price this one up at 150! strange logic to say the least

Strange logic, indeed. All the talk about $115, $120...goes back to my original point WAY BACK in the thread...I have not seen many going for less than $150 lately on any site.
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That is a good positive upward trend. So, here I was proving my point...this should not start at any thing less than $150.

Given what it could mean, it could be a gem! It, like any three letter acronym, can mean a multitude of things to the viewer.

mikesherov · 12-14-2006, 02:09 PM

BIN means Buy It Now. Saying "BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!" means I should expect $150 for ITR.us.

I feel better knowing you meant starting price. My estimates have this name fetching at least double, if not triple that, to a reseller today.

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by mikesherov

BIN means Buy It Now. Saying "BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!" means I should expect $150 for ITR.us.
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I feel better knowing you meant starting price. My estimates have this name fetching at least double, if not triple that, to a reseller today.

Kind of, sort of some humor in there but, HELL YEA, I'd give $150 for that any day if I saw something like that posted as a BIN. I'm not sure any one in this forum would disagree with this particular domain.

Again, an end user issue. Your estimates may be on the low side.

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by mikesherov

BIN means Buy It Now. Saying "BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!" means I should expect $150 for ITR.us.

I feel better knowing you meant starting price. My estimates have this name fetching at least double, if not triple that, to a reseller today.

double yes, triple i cant see it yet, but give it a few months

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 02:26 PM

Okay, play with these that I pulled out of one registrar.

I'll be back in a while.

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EDITED TO REFLECT GOOGLE NUMBERS SINCE THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO MANY.

B-Q.US 20.7 mil
K-T.US 73.3 mil
Q-U.US 456 mil
Q-X.US 17.5 mil
Q-Y.US 15.8 mil
R-V.US 95.6 mil
T-Q.US 19.6 mil
U-K.US 994 mil
VAE.US 9.2 mil
XAE.US 5.58 mil
ZBO.US 939K
EQX.US 364K
GXU.US 494K
IXV.US 350K
KYJ.US 508K
KZW.US 370K
MXH.US 793K
MXW.US 1.54 mil
SZL.US 1.56 mil
TWY.US 703K
V-U.US 150 mil
VSF.US 1.36 mil
YBF.US 571K
YHO.US 498K
ZRO.US 1.84 mil

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 02:36 PM

VAE.US is very nice

mikesherov · 12-14-2006, 02:48 PM

VAE.us is nice. It also has 9Mil google results too!

irishmat · 12-14-2006, 03:05 PM

hehe this is turning into an appraisals thread!

circa1850 · 12-14-2006, 03:06 PM

Naw, not so much an appraisal thread.

Here is something I do not understand in the domain world and will never make any sense to me and my logic. I know, ultimately, it boils down to demand…is there a demand for it.
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Some things, of course, just jump out at you. Three letters is three letters.

Using a true LLL format in any combination, there are a total of 17,576 possible three letter combinations (LLL).

By inserting the hyphen in the middle, we now have a total of 676 possible combinations (L-L). There are only 676 combinations!

Okay, let’s hurry up and do the N-N being only 100 (10x10).

Yet, we have it in our heads to stay away from hyphens. This makes no sense to me and has never made any sense to me. From a purely mathematical and scarcity issue, the numbers speak for themselves. From a demand point of view, the hyphen just ain’t cutting the grade.

At some point, I think there will be some rethinking on this.

Any thoughts?

Yeah, I’m hoarding a ton of them.

mikesherov · 12-14-2006, 03:25 PM

the thinking is that when you describe a domain name, hyphen is undesirable because idiots can get confused over whether or not they have to spell out the word "hyphen" or "dash" or however it's pronounced. I agree with that thinking.

Also, OXF.us just went for $133 on eBay. It would have stayed at $112, if not for some last second bidding by me.

btrader · 12-14-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by mikesherov

the thinking is that when you describe a domain name, hyphen is undesirable because idiots can get confused over whether or not they have to spell out the word "hyphen" or "dash" or however it's pronounced. I agree with that thinking.
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Also, OXF.us just went for $133 on eBay. It would have stayed at $112, if not for some last second bidding by me.

agreed on the hyphen - i got some great hyphen words, they get no type-in and have NEVER sold one. avoid da' hyphen.

OXF went cheap...

(thanks for getting me an extra $20.)

Lasher · 12-14-2006, 08:26 PM

I have a handful of L-L.us picked up on drops (R-P, N-W, R-L and I-X) but never chased them and wouldn't personally pay more than drop price for one except perhaps my initials. They get 0 traffic.
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Btrader - auction one of the premiums already!

Originally Posted by irishmat

nice sale jeter, seems ebay is a good place for selling! ive got QQC so it was nice to see QQA do so well

edit: oops its QCC that ive got, surely thats even better lol

theres been lots of LLL.us break the $200 mark from months ago, even saw some breaking the $300 mark 2 months ago

Someone went through Afternic a couple of months ago and blanket bid 300 on all of my 'premium letter' 3 character .US domains such as BLE, TER, PLO, etc. I assumed they did it on any with a lower minimum bid.Turned them all down of course, but it was nice to see the offers.

Also turned down $700 from a member here for ESP.us too, but I think that was coz he really liked the domain (as I do) more than any real indication of .US value.

They do seem to be treading water lately, but that's ok. I mentally consider LLL as "commodity domains" because they have much high liquidity than other domains. I compare them to the stock of a good company. It will average up over the long haul but that doesn't mean there wont be 10 or 20 percent corrections along the way.

Originally Posted by circa1850

When I made you the same counter offer, there were some serious grammatical errors and typos in your response. You transposed You and the F word (you put you first) and misspelled bastard (there is no e in bastard).

Lol, wasn't me boss, I always make sure and spellcheck my cursing.

circa1850 · 12-15-2006, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Lasher

Lol, wasn't me boss, I always make sure and spellcheck my cursing.

This is a MUST DO. Always have your spell checker on when cussing.

Interesting take on the hyphen issue. This was has been the thinking for years with most domainers. But this is not the thinking with most businesses.

My largest sale to date has been a L-L.com. There is a telecommunication company that had a website that contained 16 letters in their name which they also used as their domain name and website (www.LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.com). So, how many people do you think were doing typos on that number. Now their customers or business associates just type in www.L-L.com. I am sure they looked at alternatives but found the LL.com exceptionally pricey as well as some of the 3 letter options with would have required at least two vowels along with a premium letter.

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So when I said I was hoarding a bunch of L-L domains, it wasn't just .us. I think there is a great market for the .com and for some the .net. Some I have sold. I have had several offers come in from sedo but have turned them down so far.

I think in time as the three letter dot com and dot net price themselves out of range, as most will, I believe there will be a great market for the L-L.

ripley · 12-18-2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by circa1850

I think in time as the three letter dot com and dot net price themselves out of range, as most will, I believe there will be a great market for the L-L.

I agree. They're a viable alternative for companies who want, in essence, a two-letter presence on the web. I've found that end users, in general, are much less afraid of hyphens than domainers. And end users are who we're all after anyway.
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The other advantage on the resale market is that L-L.* domains are quite rare. Not many of them, which makes them faster to close out and begin appreciating. I have many L-L and C-C domains in my portfolio, personally.

ripley.

circa1850 · 12-18-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by ripley

I agree. They're a viable alternative for companies who want, in essence, a two-letter presence on the web. I've found that end users, in general, are much less afraid of hyphens than domainers. And end users are who we're all after anyway.

The other advantage on the resale market is that L-L.* domains are quite rare. Not many of them, which makes them faster to close out and begin appreciating. I have many L-L and C-C domains in my portfolio, personally.

ripley.

See my previous post.

There is definitely a market for these. As you say, the end user is who we are after.

Not so much from a domainer to domainer point of view as it appears that most are still thinking the hyphen is rubbish.

Originally Posted by circa1850

Using a true LLL format in any combination, there are a total of 17,576 possible three letter combinations (LLL).
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By inserting the hyphen in the middle, we now have a total of 676 possible combinations (L-L). There are only 676 combinations!

Okay, let’s hurry up and do the N-N being only 100 (10x10).

Essentially, the L-L combination is a mere 4% of the possible LLL combinations. Needless to say, this formula applies to all TLD's. Do the math...which is more rare?

I know we got a little side tracked on the .us thread, but still a great discussion.

If I can buy a L-L.com for a couple hundred dollars, you bet I'm all over it.

ripley · 12-18-2006, 11:28 AM

Honestly I think this discussion is particularly applicable in a .US thread because it's one of the few appreciating domains with decent C-C combinations still available. I'm steadily adding more to my portfolio as the days go by. (In fact, if anybody has some they want to offload, PM me.)

ripley.

irishmat · 12-19-2006, 02:12 PM

back to the topic of LLL

I just sold wqe for 130 and got another one for sale now, see signature

12-14-2006, 01:32 PM	#101 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Recently Ebay SOLD FVP.US $189 CJZ.US $102.46 YRE.US $227 (RESERVE NOT MET) DBX.US 157.50 If you take just these 4 that were on ebay just recently, the average is about $168. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/cctld-discussion/261586-value-of-lll-us.html Take out the reserve and you are right at $149.65 Now, eBay can hardly be seen as a bench mark for domain names, but I think $150 is a dead issue. Surprised that CJZ went as low as it did. Seems like it would have good appeal to the JEEP CJ crowd. But, that's just me and MHO. What I want to know, is which one of you offered to buy all my three letter domains (LLL's) for $30.00 each when I was selling on ebay a few weeks ago? When I made you the same counter offer, there were some serious grammatical errors and typos in your response. You transposed You and the F word (you put you first) and misspelled bastard (there is no e in bastard). Last edited by circa1850; 12-14-2006 at 01:41 PM.

12-14-2006, 01:42 PM	#102 (permalink)
mikesherov NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	OK, I give up! $150 it is. Nevermind that DBX has two good letters (especially DB in that order), I consider FVP to have zero bad letters (hell, I'm the one who bought that name for the $190), and if you look at CZJ.us, it has 2 bad letters and barely broke $100! Look, sell them for whatever you want. I want to see those prices going up! I want everyone to get $150 for LLL.us regardless of the letter! We should all prosper in this market. If I'm the only one who thinks something, then the perception becomes reality, and I'm wrong. I am just looking at the facts about the current sales, and that's what I see. Quick question: Can you guys give me your current value on ITR.us? I'm curious to see what you guys are placing as it's current going price according to your models? Last edited by mikesherov; 12-14-2006 at 01:45 PM.

12-14-2006, 01:44 PM	THREAD STARTER #103 (permalink)
irishmat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,366	hehe, mate im with you on this, the market is definitely not at 150, its at 115ish, but decent letters can bring in anything just depends how much the buyer wants it __________________ Y5S.com for sale - PM mepoker blog

12-14-2006, 01:48 PM	THREAD STARTER #106 (permalink)
irishmat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,366	ITR i would put at 250ish, premium lettered ones with good google results are very hard to come by __________________ Y5S.com for sale - PM mepoker blog

12-14-2006, 02:26 PM	#113 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Okay, play with these that I pulled out of one registrar. I'll be back in a while. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=261586 EDITED TO REFLECT GOOGLE NUMBERS SINCE THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO MANY. B-Q.US 20.7 mil K-T.US 73.3 mil Q-U.US 456 mil Q-X.US 17.5 mil Q-Y.US 15.8 mil R-V.US 95.6 mil T-Q.US 19.6 mil U-K.US 994 mil VAE.US 9.2 mil XAE.US 5.58 mil ZBO.US 939K EQX.US 364K GXU.US 494K IXV.US 350K KYJ.US 508K KZW.US 370K MXH.US 793K MXW.US 1.54 mil SZL.US 1.56 mil TWY.US 703K V-U.US 150 mil VSF.US 1.36 mil YBF.US 571K YHO.US 498K ZRO.US 1.84 mil Last edited by circa1850; 12-14-2006 at 04:52 PM.

12-14-2006, 01:47 PM	#105 (permalink)
mikesherov NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	Just realized how harsh I'm sounding in this thread. My apologies if I seem combative, I'm just passionate about this market. Either way, I hope we all prosper, and that the pricing models we all use result in many fruitful sales. Still, I'd like that appraisal of ITR.us from anyone generous enough to offer it.

12-14-2006, 02:09 PM	#110 (permalink)
mikesherov NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	BIN means Buy It Now. Saying "BIN $150.00 NO JOKE!" means I should expect $150 for ITR.us. I feel better knowing you meant starting price. My estimates have this name fetching at least double, if not triple that, to a reseller today.

12-14-2006, 02:36 PM	THREAD STARTER #114 (permalink)
irishmat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,366	VAE.US is very nice __________________ Y5S.com for sale - PM mepoker blog

12-14-2006, 02:48 PM	#115 (permalink)
mikesherov NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	VAE.us is nice. It also has 9Mil google results too!

12-14-2006, 03:05 PM	THREAD STARTER #116 (permalink)
irishmat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,366	hehe this is turning into an appraisals thread! __________________ Y5S.com for sale - PM mepoker blog

12-14-2006, 03:06 PM	#117 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Naw, not so much an appraisal thread. Here is something I do not understand in the domain world and will never make any sense to me and my logic. I know, ultimately, it boils down to demand…is there a demand for it. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=261586 Some things, of course, just jump out at you. Three letters is three letters. Using a true LLL format in any combination, there are a total of 17,576 possible three letter combinations (LLL). By inserting the hyphen in the middle, we now have a total of 676 possible combinations (L-L). There are only 676 combinations! Okay, let’s hurry up and do the N-N being only 100 (10x10). Yet, we have it in our heads to stay away from hyphens. This makes no sense to me and has never made any sense to me. From a purely mathematical and scarcity issue, the numbers speak for themselves. From a demand point of view, the hyphen just ain’t cutting the grade. At some point, I think there will be some rethinking on this. Any thoughts? Yeah, I’m hoarding a ton of them.

12-14-2006, 03:25 PM	#118 (permalink)
mikesherov NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	the thinking is that when you describe a domain name, hyphen is undesirable because idiots can get confused over whether or not they have to spell out the word "hyphen" or "dash" or however it's pronounced. I agree with that thinking. Also, OXF.us just went for $133 on eBay. It would have stayed at $112, if not for some last second bidding by me.

12-18-2006, 11:28 AM	#124 (permalink)
ripley NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: NamePower.us Posts: 770	Honestly I think this discussion is particularly applicable in a .US thread because it's one of the few appreciating domains with decent C-C combinations still available. I'm steadily adding more to my portfolio as the days go by. (In fact, if anybody has some they want to offload, PM me.) ripley. __________________ www.namepower.us - Domain names with an impact.

12-19-2006, 02:12 PM	THREAD STARTER #125 (permalink)
irishmat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,366	back to the topic of LLL I just sold wqe for 130 and got another one for sale now, see signature __________________ Y5S.com for sale - PM mepoker blog

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