If you take just these 4 that were on ebay just recently, the average is about $168.
Take out the reserve and you are right at $149.65
Now, eBay can hardly be seen as a bench mark for domain names, but I think $150 is a dead issue.
Surprised that CJZ went as low as it did. Seems like it would have good appeal to the JEEP CJ crowd. But, that's just me and MHO.
What I want to know, is which one of you offered to buy all my three letter domains (LLL's) for $30.00 each when I was selling on ebay a few weeks ago?
When I made you the same counter offer, there were some serious grammatical errors and typos in your response. You transposed You and the F word (you put you first) and misspelled bastard (there is no e in bastard).
Last edited by circa1850 : 12-14-2006 at 12:41 PM.
Nevermind that DBX has two good letters (especially DB in that order), I consider FVP to have zero bad letters (hell, I'm the one who bought that name for the $190), and if you look at CZJ.us, it has 2 bad letters and barely broke $100!
Look, sell them for whatever you want. I want to see those prices going up! I want everyone to get $150 for LLL.us regardless of the letter! We should all prosper in this market. If I'm the only one who thinks something, then the perception becomes reality, and I'm wrong. I am just looking at the facts about the current sales, and that's what I see.
Quick question: Can you guys give me your current value on ITR.us? I'm curious to see what you guys are placing as it's current going price according to your models?
Last edited by mikesherov : 12-14-2006 at 12:45 PM.
hehe, mate im with you on this, the market is definitely not at 150, its at 115ish, but decent letters can bring in anything just depends how much the buyer wants it
Just realized how harsh I'm sounding in this thread. My apologies if I seem combative, I'm just passionate about this market. Either way, I hope we all prosper, and that the pricing models we all use result in many fruitful sales.
Still, I'd like that appraisal of ITR.us from anyone generous enough to offer it.
I have no model. I don't think there are any bad letters when you talking LLL.us. I think some letters are better than others but none to scare me aware.
I look at the end user potential and what I can make out of the acronym.
You got the country code for ITaly, the common reference for Internet Technology, a common one sylable English word IT, so the rest is up to the viewer to come up with something for the R seeing that the rest is a given.
A solid $150.00 to $200.00 performer. Again, there is that $150 minimum.
But, let's not forget Income Tax Return which, to the right end user and start up company or online preparer, you are looking perhaps a $500.00 reserve. Who knows where it would go from there if it was marketed as such. A portal to each and every State as well as Federal forms and info?
Strange logic, indeed. All the talk about $115, $120...goes back to my original point WAY BACK in the thread...I have not seen many going for less than $150 lately on any site.
That is a good positive upward trend. So, here I was proving my point...this should not start at any thing less than $150.
Given what it could mean, it could be a gem! It, like any three letter acronym, can mean a multitude of things to the viewer.
Kind of, sort of some humor in there but, HELL YEA, I'd give $150 for that any day if I saw something like that posted as a BIN. I'm not sure any one in this forum would disagree with this particular domain.
Again, an end user issue. Your estimates may be on the low side.
Okay, play with these that I pulled out of one registrar.
I'll be back in a while.
EDITED TO REFLECT GOOGLE NUMBERS SINCE THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO MANY.
B-Q.US 20.7 mil
K-T.US 73.3 mil
Q-U.US 456 mil
Q-X.US 17.5 mil
Q-Y.US 15.8 mil
R-V.US 95.6 mil
T-Q.US 19.6 mil
U-K.US 994 mil
VAE.US 9.2 mil
XAE.US 5.58 mil
ZBO.US 939K
EQX.US 364K
GXU.US 494K
IXV.US 350K
KYJ.US 508K
KZW.US 370K
MXH.US 793K
MXW.US 1.54 mil
SZL.US 1.56 mil
TWY.US 703K
V-U.US 150 mil
VSF.US 1.36 mil
YBF.US 571K
YHO.US 498K
ZRO.US 1.84 mil
Last edited by circa1850 : 12-14-2006 at 03:52 PM.
Here is something I do not understand in the domain world and will never make any sense to me and my logic. I know, ultimately, it boils down to demand…is there a demand for it.
Some things, of course, just jump out at you. Three letters is three letters.
Using a true LLL format in any combination, there are a total of 17,576 possible three letter combinations (LLL).
By inserting the hyphen in the middle, we now have a total of 676 possible combinations (L-L). There are only 676 combinations!
Okay, let’s hurry up and do the N-N being only 100 (10x10).
Yet, we have it in our heads to stay away from hyphens. This makes no sense to me and has never made any sense to me. From a purely mathematical and scarcity issue, the numbers speak for themselves. From a demand point of view, the hyphen just ain’t cutting the grade.
At some point, I think there will be some rethinking on this.
the thinking is that when you describe a domain name, hyphen is undesirable because idiots can get confused over whether or not they have to spell out the word "hyphen" or "dash" or however it's pronounced. I agree with that thinking.
Also, OXF.us just went for $133 on eBay. It would have stayed at $112, if not for some last second bidding by me.
I have a handful of L-L.us picked up on drops (R-P, N-W, R-L and I-X) but never chased them and wouldn't personally pay more than drop price for one except perhaps my initials. They get 0 traffic.
Btrader - auction one of the premiums already!
Someone went through Afternic a couple of months ago and blanket bid 300 on all of my 'premium letter' 3 character .US domains such as BLE, TER, PLO, etc. I assumed they did it on any with a lower minimum bid.Turned them all down of course, but it was nice to see the offers.
Also turned down $700 from a member here for ESP.us too, but I think that was coz he really liked the domain (as I do) more than any real indication of .US value.
They do seem to be treading water lately, but that's ok. I mentally consider LLL as "commodity domains" because they have much high liquidity than other domains. I compare them to the stock of a good company. It will average up over the long haul but that doesn't mean there wont be 10 or 20 percent corrections along the way.
Lol, wasn't me boss, I always make sure and spellcheck my cursing.
This is a MUST DO. Always have your spell checker on when cussing.
Interesting take on the hyphen issue. This was has been the thinking for years with most domainers. But this is not the thinking with most businesses.
My largest sale to date has been a L-L.com. There is a telecommunication company that had a website that contained 16 letters in their name which they also used as their domain name and website (www.LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.com). So, how many people do you think were doing typos on that number. Now their customers or business associates just type in www.L-L.com. I am sure they looked at alternatives but found the LL.com exceptionally pricey as well as some of the 3 letter options with would have required at least two vowels along with a premium letter.
So when I said I was hoarding a bunch of L-L domains, it wasn't just .us. I think there is a great market for the .com and for some the .net. Some I have sold. I have had several offers come in from sedo but have turned them down so far.
I think in time as the three letter dot com and dot net price themselves out of range, as most will, I believe there will be a great market for the L-L.
I agree. They're a viable alternative for companies who want, in essence, a two-letter presence on the web. I've found that end users, in general, are much less afraid of hyphens than domainers. And end users are who we're all after anyway.
The other advantage on the resale market is that L-L.* domains are quite rare. Not many of them, which makes them faster to close out and begin appreciating. I have many L-L and C-C domains in my portfolio, personally.
(thanks for getting me an extra $20.)
