What do the .MOBI Domainers make of this? - Page 3

inspiration100 · 11-09-2006, 09:07 PM

imma staying out of this .mobi fest, no one including my parents, brother, dog or cat know what a .mobi domain is, and to me, the average folk here is what matters. Yes, coffee.mobi might sell in the millions, but does anyone on namepros own coffee.mobi? Doubt it. I wish good luck to those investors, as it could be extremely smart, or... maybe not so. Your call.

gou · 11-09-2006, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by inspiration100

imma staying out of this .mobi fest, no one including my parents, brother, dog or cat know what a .mobi domain is, and to me, the average folk here is what matters. Yes, coffee.mobi might sell in the millions, but does anyone on namepros own coffee.mobi? Doubt it. I wish good luck to those investors, as it could be extremely smart, or... maybe not so. Your call.

No one even new what .com was back in the day.
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Once the general public becomes aware of something, it's too late to invest in it.
Buffett got out of silver recently for that exact reason; "what the wise man does in the beginning, the fool does in the end."

*nrmillions* · 11-09-2006, 10:03 PM

average people on the street still dont know what the hell a .info or .us is but good words in those extensions have been increasing in value quite a bit. Those extensions are still far from being mainstream but are worth something. Of corse noone knows what a mobi is yet, it just came out a month ago.

gamehouse · 11-09-2006, 10:08 PM

Well said. I accept that no one knew about .com back in the day. But I see some problem by directly relating present .mobi era to old .com era.

Many things are different. Back then, may be domainers and non domainers or public or non-public, no one or few are aware about .com. But now situation is quite different my friend. People and their awareness are at a different plateau so to speak. People are aware of internet and some are very aware of mobile internet. People are aware of internet and its usage and how it is changing the life. We know about PPC, clicks, click fraud, PPM and all that stuff. So its only logical to try to understand how these existing methods will be applied to .mobi. I hope you understand what I mean.

GH

Originally Posted by gou

No one even new what .com was back in the day.
Once the general public becomes aware of something, it's too late to invest in it.
Buffett got out of silver recently for that exact reason; "what the wise man does in the beginning, the fool does in the end."

-db- · 11-09-2006, 10:16 PM

I already sold off about a dozen 3 letter .Mobi's, but I've currently got about 50 .Mobi's now. At least 20 of them are what I consider 'excellent' names, and relevant to the mobile Internet.

You might not guess I'm a .Mobi supporter, from my lack of public enthusiasm, but that's because I'm a healthy skeptic, and my excitement for the potential of this extension is only matched by my fear of it's failure. There are SO many factors involved, and no matter what ANYBODY says, I don't think keyboards can get any smaller, or screens get any bigger.... without changing the whole point of mobile phones/devices. If it won't fit in your pocket, it doesn't matter, and the "3 to 1" cellphone VS pc argument is out the window.

I hope it succeeds. I hope we are sitting here in a few years laughing at this thread.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

Then again, a few years from now, what if web browser technology or programming make EVERY web site compatible for mobile devices.

gamehouse · 11-09-2006, 10:19 PM

I honestly believe that .mobis will take off in a good way. The only thing that can do this job is TECHNOLOGY, imo. At the same time, the same technology has the capability to make anything obsolete.

GH

BocaVision · 11-09-2006, 10:26 PM

Inspiration:

Nobody owns Coffee.mobi. Coffee.mobi along with thousands of premium .mobi domains will be released to private & public entities & individuals via Auction, RFP and other venues.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

Asking the "average Joe" about .mobi now is like asking the average Joe in 2004, "What is YouTube?" or in 1997, "hey Joe, What is a Google?"
In other words, .mobi entered a small part of the public conciousness on September 26, 2006. Ask your parents, brother, dog and cat in 10-12 months about .mobi and they will likely know.

In 2 to 3 years everyone will know .mobi. The strong push of MobileTv (Cellevision), QWERTY keypads flooding the global streets, the consortium of .mobi backers (i.e Google, Microsoft, Nokia, Samsung), new BlackBerry & Dash models, Zunes, Vidcasting, MobileWebPPC, coupled with the major corporations with existing live .mobi sites (i.e. BMW.mobi, BusinessWeek.mobi) and the forthcoming giant .mobi flock (Ringtones.mobi, News.mobi, Weather.mobi, etc) that will emerge on the MobileWeb with theirBrand.mobi.

Originally Posted by inspiration100

imma staying out of this .mobi fest, no one including my parents, brother, dog or cat know what a .mobi domain is, and to me, the average folk here is what matters. Yes, coffee.mobi might sell in the millions, but does anyone on namepros own coffee.mobi? Doubt it. I wish good luck to those investors, as it could be extremely smart, or... maybe not so. Your call.

Binfus · 11-10-2006, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by inspiration100

.....no one including my parents, brother, dog or cat know what a .mobi domain is, and to me, the average folk here is what matters.

By the time your parents, brother, dog and cat, and average folks around you know about ANY good investment opportunity, its way too late; isn't it... Dot com was like this, stocks the same way, and more recently real-estate....Dot Mobi (or any other new tld) is no different. One might not get Coffee.mobi but similar caliber names were definitely available in the landrush....compare the one who got a name of that quality for about a 100 bucks to those who would want to own name(s) of similar caliber when their parents, brothers and sisters, dogs and cats would all know about .mobi...the price differential would be insane, the latter would be paying at least a 1000 times more. So, it boils down to one's choices and preferences...make a little effort and take a little risk during landrush or wait for a few years and then start chasing drops like a rabid dog.

oldtimer · 11-10-2006, 05:56 AM

No one can guaranty what will happen with .mobi either way, but those who are smart will find a balance between not ignoring a golden opportunity and not getting carried away to the point of going broke. Domainers should not blame the extension or anyone else if they can not have control over their spending habits or if they don’t choose the right names. It seems that there are three groups of people here, first the ones that completely stay away from the extension and write it off as a failure right from the start, this kind of thinking causes them to miss any potential opportunities and later they might end up being sorry. Secondly there are those who go overboard and risk more than they can afford and might end up with a lot of useless domains that they won’t be able to support when the renewal time gets here, these are usually people who let their greed effect their judgment. Thirdly there are those who do the right thing which is by being hopeful but also cautious at the same time and by taking calculated risk according to their own abilities and by being prepared for all the different routes that the extension might take in the future, these people usually end up with portfolios that are easily manageable for their level and consist of domains that have very good potential for development either for themselves or others.

*nrmillions* · 11-10-2006, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by oldtimer

No one can guaranty what will happen with .mobi either way, but those who are smart will find a balance between not ignoring a golden opportunity and not getting carried away to the point of going broke. Domainers should not blame the extension or anyone else if they can not have control over their spending habits or if they don’t choose the right names. It seems that there are three groups of people here, first the ones that completely stay away from the extension and write it off as a failure right from the start, this kind of thinking causes them to miss any potential opportunities and later they might end up being sorry. Secondly there are those who go overboard and risk more than they can afford and might end up with a lot of useless domains that they won’t be able to support when the renewal time gets here, these are usually people who let their greed effect their judgment. Thirdly there are those who do the right thing which is by being hopeful but also cautious at the same time and by taking calculated risk according to their own abilities and by being prepared for all the different routes that the extension might take in the future, these people usually end up with portfolios that are easily manageable for their level and consist of domains that have very good potential for development either for themselves or others.

.mobi is no different than other extensions anyway when it comes to people going overboard. people register millions of useless horrible .com and .net names every single year. They spend money they cant afford to lose on really bad made-up .com, .info, etc. So how does that make mobi a worse investment than the other extensions?

oldtimer · 11-10-2006, 10:54 AM

.mobi is just getting off the starting line and it deserves at least a couple of years before being judged, what makes this a good or bad investment is not the extension itself, but it is the way that domainers handle it, .mobi could become an excellent investment for those who manage to stay within their budget and go about getting the right domains that have the potential to be developed in to useful and popular sites, and it also could become a bad experience for those who jump in and spend more money than they can afford on a bunch of names that don’t suite this extension.

Carlton · 11-10-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by bocadomainer

... Asking the "average Joe" about .mobi now is like asking the average Joe in 2004, "What is YouTube?" or in 1997, "hey Joe, What is a Google?"
In other words, .mobi entered a small part of the public conciousness on September 26, 2006. Ask your parents, brother, dog and cat in 10-12 months about .mobi and they will likely know.

Excellent point of view. These now widely familiar phenomenon went from unknown to known. It's always that way. So one either plays ... or stands on the sideline.

MrRhee · 11-10-2006, 07:22 PM

I know I'm new to posting on this board but as a developer, I see that there is already a near-solid aftermarket for .mobi, so if you're unsure of the longevity of the extension, or new to the domain game, if possible keep playing the game, but play with "house money". If you have to flip other domains to pay for your .mobis registrations, then that's the safer route (not legal advice). I've been selling off chunks of my .com,.etc portfolio to buy up .mobis and will continue to do so...

... even if .mobi is doomed to failure
... even if .mobi was just a way for MTLD to milk us (I don't believe so)
... even if the aftermarket crashes

...I'll still be buying .mobis (handregs & secondary) because I plan to develop each and everyone of them and will be ready just in case the masses make their way to .Mobi-land. If the mass-market never learn about .mobi, or lose interest, the domains will still work... and my sites will still be online (for both PC users & mobile devices) and the few users that decide to adopt .mobi... I'll be there for them. Either way I win. If everyone adopts .mobi, all I need is a tiny slice of the pie... if only a few people adopt .mobi, then I'll still be online trying to get those few users to convince their network of friends/associates to find my sites. If no one uses .mobi on their mobile devices, I'll have extremely streamlined websites that are feature-rich, content-full, yet very easy to navigate with zero load times.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

but most importantly, I'm building sites for ME to use... sites I want to use while on the run, I want to be able to navigate the web and enjoy content/commerce services from my phones (Motorola Q (qwerty) & Motorola RAZR (t-9)) so if no one else uses the sites, I'm still happy with what I've developed for my own use. I picked up two today in the aftemarket that I had a deep-desire to develop: Insider.mobi and HUB.mobi (thanks Dan) - I could've gone with alternatives (I did register MyHUB, MHUB & MobileHUB before buying) but I'm adding services to HUB.mobi that I'd like to see. But I've also been able to hand-reg ($17) very recently other domains that I think could be developed and monetized (with some serious cold-calling and salesmanship) like CurbSide.mobi, and I wanted to develop some kind of fantasy game offerings and noticed the 4&5-figure sales of FantasyFootball.mobi, FantasyBaseball.mobi and was still able to hand-reg FantasyGame.mobi today for $17... not the best out there... but development behind it, it'll work perfectly for my needs... in fact... it allows me to offer a wider range of games, all sports, rpgs, etc..

anyhow.. I've already written too much... good luck to everyone. if anyone's looking for development partners, email me using any of the whois info from the domains above.

back to the .mobi mines... there's still gold out there.

.

klm390 · 11-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by MrRhee

but most importantly, I'm building sites for ME to use... sites I want to use while on the run, I want to be able to navigate the web and enjoy content/commerce services from my phones (Motorola Q (qwerty) & Motorola RAZR (t-9)) so if no one else uses the sites, I'm still happy with what I've developed for my own use.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

.

I'm doing the exact same thing. I should say I'm planning to. I seem to have my hands really full right now.

MinionDH · 11-10-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by MrRhee

I'll still be buying .mobis (handregs & secondary) because I plan to develop each and everyone of them and will be ready just in case the masses make their way to .Mobi-land. If the mass-market never learn about .mobi, or lose interest, the domains will still work... and my sites will still be online (for both PC users & mobile devices) and the few users that decide to adopt .mobi... I'll be there for them. Either way I win. If everyone adopts .mobi, all I need is a tiny slice of the pie... if only a few people adopt .mobi, then I'll still be online trying to get those few users to convince their network of friends/associates to find my sites. If no one uses .mobi on their mobile devices, I'll have extremely streamlined websites that are feature-rich, content-full, yet very easy to navigate with zero load times.

Rhee, please let the board know when you finish developing a few names. I'd love to see your work!

MrRhee · 11-11-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by MinionDH

Rhee, please let the board know when you finish developing a few names. I'd love to see your work!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860
If the board doesn't consider it spammy, then of course I'll share. I have several interesting conepts in store.

-db- · 11-11-2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by MrRhee

If the board doesn't consider it spammy, then of course I'll share.

MrRhee, please go right ahead and share you sites with us. Thank you for the concern about the community. Some people do try to pimp their site (or service) every chance they get, but that's obviously not the case here.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

I look forward to seeing your projects go live!

MrRhee · 11-13-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by klm390

I'm doing the exact same thing. I should say I'm planning to. I seem to have my hands really full right now.

win/win situation...

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11-09-2006, 10:16 PM	#55 (permalink)
-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 5,609	I already sold off about a dozen 3 letter .Mobi's, but I've currently got about 50 .Mobi's now. At least 20 of them are what I consider 'excellent' names, and relevant to the mobile Internet. You might not guess I'm a .Mobi supporter, from my lack of public enthusiasm, but that's because I'm a healthy skeptic, and my excitement for the potential of this extension is only matched by my fear of it's failure. There are SO many factors involved, and no matter what ANYBODY says, I don't think keyboards can get any smaller, or screens get any bigger.... without changing the whole point of mobile phones/devices. If it won't fit in your pocket, it doesn't matter, and the "3 to 1" cellphone VS pc argument is out the window. I hope it succeeds. I hope we are sitting here in a few years laughing at this thread. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860 Then again, a few years from now, what if web browser technology or programming make EVERY web site compatible for mobile devices. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

11-09-2006, 10:03 PM	#53 (permalink)
nrmillions NamePros Supporter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,912	average people on the street still dont know what the hell a .info or .us is but good words in those extensions have been increasing in value quite a bit. Those extensions are still far from being mainstream but are worth something. Of corse noone knows what a mobi is yet, it just came out a month ago.

11-09-2006, 10:19 PM	#56 (permalink)
gamehouse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,401	I honestly believe that .mobis will take off in a good way. The only thing that can do this job is TECHNOLOGY, imo. At the same time, the same technology has the capability to make anything obsolete. GH

11-10-2006, 05:56 AM	#59 (permalink)
oldtimer NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 626	No one can guaranty what will happen with .mobi either way, but those who are smart will find a balance between not ignoring a golden opportunity and not getting carried away to the point of going broke. Domainers should not blame the extension or anyone else if they can not have control over their spending habits or if they don’t choose the right names. It seems that there are three groups of people here, first the ones that completely stay away from the extension and write it off as a failure right from the start, this kind of thinking causes them to miss any potential opportunities and later they might end up being sorry. Secondly there are those who go overboard and risk more than they can afford and might end up with a lot of useless domains that they won’t be able to support when the renewal time gets here, these are usually people who let their greed effect their judgment. Thirdly there are those who do the right thing which is by being hopeful but also cautious at the same time and by taking calculated risk according to their own abilities and by being prepared for all the different routes that the extension might take in the future, these people usually end up with portfolios that are easily manageable for their level and consist of domains that have very good potential for development either for themselves or others.

11-10-2006, 10:54 AM	#61 (permalink)
oldtimer NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 626	.mobi is just getting off the starting line and it deserves at least a couple of years before being judged, what makes this a good or bad investment is not the extension itself, but it is the way that domainers handle it, .mobi could become an excellent investment for those who manage to stay within their budget and go about getting the right domains that have the potential to be developed in to useful and popular sites, and it also could become a bad experience for those who jump in and spend more money than they can afford on a bunch of names that don’t suite this extension.

11-10-2006, 07:22 PM	#63 (permalink)
MrRhee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Multiverse Posts: 1,207	I know I'm new to posting on this board but as a developer, I see that there is already a near-solid aftermarket for .mobi, so if you're unsure of the longevity of the extension, or new to the domain game, if possible keep playing the game, but play with "house money". If you have to flip other domains to pay for your .mobis registrations, then that's the safer route (not legal advice). I've been selling off chunks of my .com,.etc portfolio to buy up .mobis and will continue to do so... ... even if .mobi is doomed to failure ... even if .mobi was just a way for MTLD to milk us (I don't believe so) ... even if the aftermarket crashes ...I'll still be buying .mobis (handregs & secondary) because I plan to develop each and everyone of them and will be ready just in case the masses make their way to .Mobi-land. If the mass-market never learn about .mobi, or lose interest, the domains will still work... and my sites will still be online (for both PC users & mobile devices) and the few users that decide to adopt .mobi... I'll be there for them. Either way I win. If everyone adopts .mobi, all I need is a tiny slice of the pie... if only a few people adopt .mobi, then I'll still be online trying to get those few users to convince their network of friends/associates to find my sites. If no one uses .mobi on their mobile devices, I'll have extremely streamlined websites that are feature-rich, content-full, yet very easy to navigate with zero load times. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860 but most importantly, I'm building sites for ME to use... sites I want to use while on the run, I want to be able to navigate the web and enjoy content/commerce services from my phones (Motorola Q (qwerty) & Motorola RAZR (t-9)) so if no one else uses the sites, I'm still happy with what I've developed for my own use. I picked up two today in the aftemarket that I had a deep-desire to develop: Insider.mobi and HUB.mobi (thanks Dan) - I could've gone with alternatives (I did register MyHUB, MHUB & MobileHUB before buying) but I'm adding services to HUB.mobi that I'd like to see. But I've also been able to hand-reg ($17) very recently other domains that I think could be developed and monetized (with some serious cold-calling and salesmanship) like CurbSide.mobi, and I wanted to develop some kind of fantasy game offerings and noticed the 4&5-figure sales of FantasyFootball.mobi, FantasyBaseball.mobi and was still able to hand-reg FantasyGame.mobi today for $17... not the best out there... but development behind it, it'll work perfectly for my needs... in fact... it allows me to offer a wider range of games, all sports, rpgs, etc.. anyhow.. I've already written too much... good luck to everyone. if anyone's looking for development partners, email me using any of the whois info from the domains above. back to the .mobi mines... there's still gold out there. .

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