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Old 02-18-2008, 02:44 AM   · #43
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Originally Posted by trevor
I know I've read that companies in India use .co.in more than they use .in. That is what I meant when I said the general opinion was that .co.in is preferred over .in by those in India.




Originally Posted by mwzd
Older companies, who are unlikely to buy a domain.




You say they are older companies who are unlikely to buy a domain?

I'm saying more companies in India are using .co.in more than .in in their marketing and advertising. So obviously they already have the domain.





Originally Posted by trevor
From what I've read people seemed to agree that although more .ins are registered than .co.ins



Originally Posted by mwzd
Shouldn't this statistic tell you something?



Yes, it does. It tells me Americans domainers, anxious to jump on the next big thing, have bought up a bunch of .ins.



Originally Posted by trevor
.co.ins are used more often in advertising, etc, in India.



Originally Posted by mwzd
This is actually news to me. And I've been in advertising since 1988.



I have no idea. I'm going by what I've read from others.



Originally Posted by trevor
I even read someone who was from India say that he thought most Indians weren't even aware of .in.



Originally Posted by mwzd
Must be in his circle Indian business is looking mostly at .in



You say you've been in advertising since 1988. Also, you're obviously into speculating on domains, so maybe your opinion is based on what's going on in your circle.



Originally Posted by trevor
I can also tell you from my own experience in researching registered .ins and .co.ins, that there are many Indian companies, businesses and individuals that own .co.in and have .co.in sites but have not registered the .in. They obviously don't seem to care about getting the .in version of their .co.in. I have seen the reverse but no where near as often. I realize this is anecdotal evidence but while searching for Indian domains to register, I've looked at countless domains and whois records.




Originally Posted by mwzd
Care to give me 10 examples?




I could you give you ten examples but I'm not going to list them for the world to see. I'll tell you this, there's a Indian businessman who is a billionaire and he owns a .co.in he seems to be using for a personal site or something unrelated to his business. The .in is sitting there unregistered and he has the money to buy whatever domains he wants.



Originally Posted by trevor
I should also mention that the .co.ins I have parked are viewed and clicked MUCH MORE than the .ins- even when I have the same domain in both extensions. That would seem to indicate something to me.




Originally Posted by mwzd
It depends on the .co.ins you have I think, but parking is not going to get you end user sales imho.




I'm not talking about a way to get end user sales. I'm merely saying that I have hundreds of domains parked and people in India seem to be typing xxxxxx.co.in into their browsers much more than they're typing xxxxxx.in. I've read other people also saying their .co.ins get more trafiic and clicks than .ins so I think my experience is common.



Originally Posted by trevor
Having said all that, I tend to agree that .in will eventually be preferred in India more than .co.in.




Originally Posted by mwzd
What I've been saying all along.




Yeah, I tend to agree. I'm not as fanatical in my opinions on the subject as you seem to be.



Originally Posted by trevor
However, I don't think .in is going to be preferred and valued higher than .co.in as much as some think.



Originally Posted by mwzd




It really doesn't matter to me which extension is worth more. I have both. However, you seem to be banking on .in and need .in to "win". You could be in for a rude awakening or at the very least, disappointed. However, I'll win either way.




Originally Posted by trevor
If .com and .net were released at the same time, .com most likely would not be valued more than .net. Honestly, I'd say .net would be where .com is now. If I didn't know anything about the internet and was given a choice of buying example.com or example.net, I would go with .net because, afterall, it is called the interNET and that extension would seem to make more sense than the ambiguous .com.



Originally Posted by mwzd




I have no idea what you mean by the laughing smiley faces. If you're trying to say the statement is funny or ridiculous, back up your opinion instead of mocking mine. I'd be willing to bet most people would agree with my statement. All things being equal in the beginning of the internet, .net most likely wins over .com.



Originally Posted by trevor
If we look where we are now, .co.in seems to have a greater presence in marketing in India and is more familiar to Indian people.




Originally Posted by mwzd
I live in India and get faced by the ground realities everyday.

However, you're welcome to draw whatever conclusions you want, since you seem to be hell bent on drawing the wrong ones Even your 'facts' seem misplaced. I really don't want to discuss this any further.

I wish you the best with your .co.ins

Cheers!





I was just giving some opinions and ideas based on what I've read from others and seen myself. As you'll see if you reread this discussion, I'm very careful about the words I choose and don't draw any solid conclusions. I believe you're the one who is firm in your opinions on the subject. Also, I'm not sure why you're characterizing me as "hell bent" on drawing the wrong conclusions.

mwzd, I'm going to be honest. I've read many of your posts on the forum and enjoy and respect your opinion. I believe I've even told you so when I asked you some questions via PM you were kind enough to help me with. However, I've got to say your posts here seem to be somewhat condescending, belittling and often mocking towards anyone who seems to not completely agree with your opinion. It would have been nice if you would have been as respectful of my opinions as I was of yours.


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