Anti- .in .co.in arguments?

That is alaso one of the reason of .us lowwwwww

We have made our domains availble to every1...

chandan123 said:

we cant reg .us

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my name available in .us but i wont reg :hehe:

LLL.co.in domains good investment?

Do you guys realize that the reason that .us is where it is today is that the US public views .com as their ".us". The US is the only country in the world where their ccTLD is not widely, in comparison to .com or .net, used because the mind-share of .com came first.

In India, China, the UK, and everywhere else in the world, people knew .com, but they also knew their ccTLD at the same time. I do think that .us is undervalued dramatically, but the undervaluation of .us doesn't coincide with where the .in market is right now. It's actually the opposite.

I think India is also heading in US direction where people relate more with .COM then country ccTLD. With Economy upward in INDIA and more internet users adding in thousands everyday, I do see market for india CCTLD, not necessarily companies will build sites on these domains. They might be used only for investment purpose. Like buying rular land for investment. If you can book few will be good investment for future.
thx

.co.in is almost half as cheap as a .in, so this gives indians more incentive to keep registering .co.in(s). If .in's price stays at $13 or $14, that will further stunt its growth, but probably not too badly.The fact that .co.in was launched before .in gives .co.in more legacy than .in, but i'm not sure how this will change in the future. People also like hacking the ".in" end too, and that is gaining popularity, just like .it and the likes.

kemjika11 said:

The fact that .co.in was launched before .in gives .co.in more legacy than .in

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In another thread I asked about the dates that .in, .co.in, .net.in and .gen.in were made available and was told they were all available at the same time.

So, that is wrong? If so, what were the dates each extension was made available? I couldn't find the answer online.

I believe all .In domains including .co.in were introduced in 1989

Before the more liberal policies for the .in domain, only 7000 names had been registered between 1992 and 2004. By the end of 2006, that number had increased to over 200,000, with names registered by web users in over 150 countries. Roughly 80% of the registrants are from India, Germany, and the United States.

.in introduced in 1992 :o

btw which is the first .in registered domain any idea ?

mwzd said:

I think John has hit the nail on the head. Can't explain any better.

There is one more related but unmentioned problem I might add - Indian TMs are not yet enforced viz domains and .co.in *might* just be a target when they are, maybe not though.



Fact #1 - LLL.in are sold out - LLL.co.in are far from it.

Fact #2 - International websites / domainers prefer .in over .co.in anyday

Fact #3 - even -ing & -ed words for .in are regged, even the basic keywords are available in .co.in

I could go on, but those thinking .co.in will beat .in in whatever sense are deluding themselves, as well as their followers.

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Someone apparently never visited india. Using reseller "standards" is a horrible way to compare .co.in & .in.

The fact is, companies are reluctant to change, .co.in is going to remain the standard for a long time. what would the british do if .uk came out, nothing their habits stay at .co.uk

trevor said:

In another thread I asked about the dates that .in, .co.in, .net.in and .gen.in we made available and was told they were all available at the same time.

So, that is wrong? If so, what were the dates each extension was made available? I couldn't find the answer online.

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.co.in, .net.in, .gen.in are also .in .....but .in was allowed for the general public later


Govt opens .in registration: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/973998.cms

More news articles on .in launch here http://www.registry.in/news/

anyone knows why whiz.in is down? sorry if its not on topic.

Sam said:

Someone apparently never visited india. Using reseller "standards" is a horrible way to compare .co.in & .in.

The fact is, companies are reluctant to change, .co.in is going to remain the standard for a long time. what would the british do if .uk came out, nothing their habits stay at .co.uk

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I'm Indian, born and bred, can't visit, live here.

In advertising since 1988. Online since 1998. Never went for the 'grow big fast' mantra, opting instead for the 'slow and steady wins the race' one.

Currently running 12 companies and own 45 active portals.

When everyone was selling .in (April-Aug 07), I was buying, call me what you will... but I went after .in for what I consider were the right reasons.

I very much doubt I'm wrong and have put my money where my mouth is. I think you need to get your facts straight before making statements.

You might also be well served in reading the conversation here for a couple of pages -
http://www.namepros.com/173911-the-indian-domain-name-showcase-co-88.html

Specially -
http://www.namepros.com/2531351-post2193.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531369-post2194.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531375-post2195.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531756-post2199.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531768-post2200.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531796-post2202.html
http://www.namepros.com/2531842-post2205.html

Fact of the matter, new companies use the .in for branding, .co.in only for brand protection coverage.

And if .uk came out, I'm willing to bet that it would outstrip regs in all other third level .xx.uk names by 2x in three years...

Sam said:

Someone apparently never visited india. Using reseller "standards" is a horrible way to compare .co.in & .in.

The fact is, companies are reluctant to change, .co.in is going to remain the standard for a long time. what would the british do if .uk came out, nothing their habits stay at .co.uk

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But that would be a new ccTLD. As pointed out earlier .in and .co.in were out at the same time so by this point in time it is apparent which one is preferred.

gooster said:

But that would be a new ccTLD. As pointed out earlier .in and .co.in were out at the same time so by this point in time it is apparent which one is preferred.

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I think you just mistakenly made an argument for .co.in.

From what I've read, the general opinion is that right now .co.in is preferred over .in by those in India.

gooster said:

But that would be a new ccTLD. As pointed out earlier .in and .co.in were out at the same time so by this point in time it is apparent which one is preferred.

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Correction, .co.in was available a lot before .in

The official 'public availability' of both was Feb 15, 2005.

edit - To get a .in earlier you needed to be a publicly traded company or at least have gross revenues in that range. Very few were given out prior to Feb 15, 2005 and those were mostly names. To get a .co.in you needed to be a registered private limited company. Lot more of those btw. Google India still is imo.

trevor said:

From what I've read, the general opinion is that right now .co.in is preferred over .in by those in India.

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I'm impressed, care to explain?

mwzd said:

I'm impressed, care to explain?

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Sorry, I'm not sure I follow your question. You say you're impressed? Huh? And what are you asking me to explain?

I'm impressed that you've drawn that conclusion.

I'd like to understand which points you have selected to reach that conclusion after reading my post above (and I assume some others in the linked threads too).

Try and do some keyword research for both tlds too.

mwzd said:

I'm impressed that you've drawn that conclusion.

I'd like to understand which points you have selected to reach that conclusion after reading my post above (and I assume some others in the linked threads too).

Try and do some keyword research for both tlds too.

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I'm not sure where I read the discussions but I know I've read that companies in India use .co.in more than they use .in. That makes sense to me because as you said previously, ".co.in was available a lot before .in" That is what I meant when I said the general opinion was that .co.in is preferred over .in by those in India.

From what I've read people seemed to agree that although more .ins are registered than .co.ins; .co.ins are used more often in advertising, etc, in India. I even read someone who was from India say that he thought most Indians weren't even aware of .in.

I can also tell you from my own experience in researching registered .ins and .co.ins, that there are many Indian companies, businesses and individuals that own .co.in and have .co.in sites but have not registered the .in. They obviously don't seem to care about getting the .in version of their .co.in. I have seen the reverse but no where near as often. I realize this is anecdotal evidence but while searching for Indian domains to register, I've looked at countless domains and whois records.

I should also mention that the .co.ins I have parked are viewed and clicked MUCH MORE than the .ins- even when I have the same domain in both extensions. That would seem to indicate something to me.

Having said all that, I tend to agree that .in will eventually be preferred in India more than .co.in. However, I don't think .in is going to be preferred and valued higher than .co.in as much as some think.

If .com and .net were released at the same time, .com most likely would not be valued more than .net. Honestly, I'd say .net would be where .com is now. If I didn't know anything about the internet and was given a choice of buying example.com or example.net, I would go with .net because, afterall, it is called the interNET and that extension would seem to make more sense than the ambiguous .com.

So, in looking at .in and .co.in and trying to predict what will happen there is plenty of things that work in .co.in's favor. If we look in the past, .co.in came before .in. If we look where we are now, .co.in seems to have a greater presence in marketing in India and is more familiar to Indian people. In he future I don't think the value of a .co.in compared to a .in is going to be like a .com to a .net. I think the value of .co.in could surprise many people.

Good points you have made trevor

i have got good collection of the .co.in domains

and to my suprise i have recieved few low xxx offers for my domains which i have rejected it.