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Old 11-05-2006, 06:39 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Other parking programs also allow back link traffic just like TrafficClub.com.
The thing is you can't park domains and start building backlinks yourself like i.e. placing links in your forum signature.

If you pick up a domain and it already has 500 backlinks then there is no problem with TOS from all parking programs, the minute you start placing backlinks yourself you're violating TOS.
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Um, most of this stuff is already done by 1plus.net? badger has a step up on you, and is heading forward full blast on new stuff.

I did read up there, someone talking about and affiliate program, something like affiliateparking.com? were instead of picking keywords to use for ads you could pick affiliate sites according to the name of your domain, now theres something awesome, no need for a CTR anymore, then you just get paid on conversions, by commision.
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Originally Posted by Jay
1) sharp clean looking graphic templates
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2) ability to set your own title and meta tags

3)ability to set your own email address or link back to your own site for sales

4)referral program

these are the basics I look for as it puts all sales into my own hands and helps with good search engine placement, parked currently has these features and works pretty well for most of my domains, use all of the above features like parked does and throw in sedos public traffic stats and you have a solid start, as I myself was considering doing something like this, unfortunately I got way too much on the table at the moment, I'll keep my eye on your progress, good luck

Sharp and clean looking templates is going to be the focus of this project, guaranteed. The server-side development of the project is already underway. The initial release of the site will be quite basic, then I will add features daily/weekly as it gains momentum.

The ability to set your own meta tags and title will be part of the initial release. The "for sale" feature and referral program will be on my list to add a few days after release if everything goes well. At first the parking will be open to only a select few people that will opt-in on Namepros to test it out. The traffic stats that you mention will be a regular day by day chart breakdown. If everything goes well, I will add in graphical charts, referers, and possibly an hour by hour breakdown a few weeks down the line. I have a good development strategy, so adding features will be faster than it sounds.


Originally Posted by Kamloops
Great idea. Parked pages should have a bookmark this page button.

Make it a co-op
I may add a bookmark this page option at the very footer of the page. Although, isn't bookmarking via javascript applicable only to Internet Explorer browsers? I'll do a little research as I am not the biggest javascript guru myself, if anything it will only appear for IE users.

What do you mean by a "co-op"?


Originally Posted by -X-
Be able to put your parked names in a signiture on a forum,Advertisers want conversions..understandable...But they also want visits that will lead to conversions,Pure typin traffic is the strangle hold of the domain name parking industry imo.....You can advertise a website with adsense on it on a forum..why not a parked domain name?
I will do my best to try and accept all sorts of traffic.


Originally Posted by cache
if you have a design firm, may be make the parking look more like a mini-site.
Yes, it is the main focus of the project. It is exactly this that will give domain parking a new name.


Originally Posted by Damion
Why can't we design our own templates? Why do we have to have limited choices?
The user will have the ability to use his/her own images for the template and the option to submit that template to the public gallery so other users can share it as well. If the initial release proves to go well, I will be adding this option very shortly after. Customization will be another focus point of this project. Customization only leads to optimization. User submitted images will all be subject to manual approval. Users will also be able to manually edit the description on their parked page for further optimization.


Originally Posted by rickkumar
3. Do NOT offer referral system......Why reduce payment for domainers. If you really offer referral system, restrict it to 10% of "First 3 months" of revenue just like hitfarm does.
If the referer gets 5-10% for a single referal, it would be going out of the company's pocket, which would in a way be mine for maybe 6-12 months.

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Overall, this new parking service will focus on presence. Mini-sites are the future of parking and that's what it will deliver. The designs will be designed in such as way to have a better CTR than other parking sponsors.

The domain is already pending purchase for this project. Ofcoarse, I will not disclose it until the project has been completed. The development is already well underway and the designs are being started on as we speak. I will update the thread once I have more news.
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Just wondering why you didn't address my concept? Is it a good idea in your opinion? Would it be hard to implement? It seems to me that a few people on this thread like the idea.
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Having the option to use your own images is a nice improvement of course but the ultimate solution would be to give someone the freedom to create his own design,the whole look so to speak.

A template would need to comply with certain requirements such as page size and other coding requirements for incorporating the ad feeds but if this outlined in full why wouldn't someone be able to have their OWN templates
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In my opinion the best idea's are already mentioned so I will just comment on them:
1. The ability to customize a parked page would be great, but it has to be optional. If I would have to design a complete website on each parked page it wouldn't be a parked page anymore now would it?
2. I love the idea for affiliate (product) links as well. I can see developing something like the adult affiliates have at freehostedgalleries .com. You can browse through the offered "products" and sign up right there and then.
3. I would also like to see parking pages search engine friendly. Not only for the extra traffic but it helps getting indexed quicker when you do decide to develop the site.
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I believe a good question for ideas would be also : "How you imagine the mini site"
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Here are my thoughts.

1. Allow users to edit Titles and Metas.

2. Templates are great and obviously needed, but don't go overboard with allowing people to edit them. Have a few wireframes for them to choose from, say a 3 column version, 3 row version, header / 2 column / footer version, etc. Then for each of the sections give them the choice of content / ads to put there. Since you want to make money also, make sure that they are required to fill at least 60% of the available sections with ads.

3. There are an @$$load of CPC companies out there, so using others besides Google and YPN shouldn't be a problem.

4. Limit the amount of "custom" items that people can put on the page. If they want a truly custom site, they can build it an host it themselves. Parking pages are meant to give people choices of relevant searches (that pay) and get them gone, not provide them with a fabulous site that they want to bookmark. Again if someone wants a bookmarkable website, they can build it themselves.

I guess that I agree that most domain parks are super limiting and there needs to be some flexibility, but at the same time, there is a myriad of reasons why they are that way. For some nice templates that look like mini sites, check out Domain Spa. I had some sites with them and used to get comments that I did a great job building it. Then I'd tell them that it's just a parked page.
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it's a great idea, but i just have a question
doe you (the webowner) earn also of our ads
i don't think that's a bad thing, because you have to pay for the servers etc.
but it must be reduced to the lowest it can
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Just a few suggestions

1. Getting a CPM ads partnership and an option to earn per CPM from banners and popups/unders impressions for maximum earning potential specially for low CTR, generic traffic.

2. Geotargeting - redirect thoes non-English traffic to an appropriate ads that accepts this. This is a solution for thoes who seek monitization from Chinese and etc traffic.

3. Allow parkers to rent text-link-ads from their domains with active PR. This is additional income.

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I Just found this thread and it made me smile as pretty much each and every post is something weve either tackled, considered, trialed, dropped or adopted during our www.1plus.net quest.

I wish you all the best, good luck with your endeavours and I hope you all go on to create something unique and worthwhile. If I were to give you any advice, collective efforts do have their advantages, but remember you cant please all of the people all of the time and whats one mans meat is another mans poison. So, without mixing metaphors too much, you may find that no sooner you change something on request of your users, another group all then complain that they preferred it as it was....
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So far all the ideas are focusing on generating ppc income, and that's great. But, I have many names that are valuable but generating much in PPC. For example, I had roommates.us and sold it for $10,000 with no ppc income stream at all. I think a lot of people have names like this.
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Afternic just started providing an option to show a "Sales Page" instead of the ppc parked page. I think that is a fantastic idea. However, their sales page leaves a lot to be desired. It should first and foremost be a clean sales page, from which the user can then enter into the technical sale page with all the bidding details. Get their attention first, then give them the details. Sedo will not create a sale page like this, I guanantee it.

We also need some flexibility as to what should go on the sales page. Both Afternic and Sedo offer a description field. But, you should be able to select multiple names from your portfolio and be able to modify the description once. For example, I might want to say the same thing about my 400 robotics names, but I don't want to key it in 400 times. Search, select and update.

There should be a universal "footer" that would apply to each sales page. showing just below the decription. Someone might want to say something about their entire portfolio, or how they do business, or whatever.

Here is one I've been trying to get Sedo to do forever, and it's the easiest and we can all use it. Put an "on vacation" flag in the profile field. When it is checked, when someone goes to the names's sales page, it's says "Bidding on Hold -- Seller on Vacation" You could also have the date of return. If you wanted to get real fancy, you could let them submit a bid and just let them know it will be on hold until such and such date. I'll be in Italy for a month next year and I really don't want to be checking my email for offers and sales to complete etc. Simple idea. Wish Sedo would do it.

Here is a biggie: Make fantastic categories like Afternic has. Sedo's are the worst of the worst and they will never change them. I've asked enough times and they are very resistant. No one categorizes things properly there because there are generally no proper categories. Where do I put robotics names, alternative energy names, (non casino) game names? Nowhere proper -- I'll just pick something for the hell of it. Afternic's categories are near perfection and because they are, I can actually use them (especially dictionary words) to find things.

DEFINITELY do not "review" buyer/seller comments before releasing, like Sedo does. I know I've lost sales due to this. I one time as a seller made a higher coutner offer than the person expected, but it was because I said he could have the com, net org and info together for that price. But all he saw was the high price and it was Friday afternoon. That means three days until they release the comments. He just saw the high counter and cancelled. Not only that, but people can lose interest over a weekned or a night. You've got to get them when you are in the heat of the counter offers. When people have too much time to think, they change their mind often. Again, Sedo won't change it. I've asked over and over.

Anyway, the point of this post is to think beyond ppc as well. And give the user tools to make using the site easier, and to make his life easier.

Oh, and make things move faster. Man! I sit there forever waiting for Sedo pages.

I have other ideas, but I cannot think of them right now.

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Most important.. Go Feed shopping and publisher shopping get off the beaten patha nd try and bring in 4 to 5 different PPC networks so that any categorey can bring in maximum revenue.
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Originally Posted by Damion
I fully agree with Briman here. Incorporating affiliate links as well is a tremendous opportunity to create better revenues.
But for this certain agreements have to be arranged with the advertisers.

Also something i would like to mention is the question what has been on my mind for a long time.
Why can't we design our own templates? Why do we have to have limited choices?

If there are certain guidelines for the template for incorporating the ad feeds then let these be known and domainers and customize their own parking pages.
With this type of implementation pages would stop looking as the parking pages you see today.
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These pages can be unique in it's kind and this type of implementation can be a refreshing new way of parking monetization.

These uniform - limited options in design need to be stopped and domainers - owners of parking pages in general need to have the abilty to have more control/input concerning the look of their pages.

Template options implemented today by ALL companies is like trying to do a sales pitch with only 5 words to your disposal while there is a whole universe of variety out there to get your point across.

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I love the idea of using affiliate links as well ... if this

happens we will list the site on UnitedAffiliates.com

when it opens.

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I have posted a notice to, and article about this thread in my blog DomainRookie.com.
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I think this is a luvely parking page - sorry WARNING ADULT LINK

pussy.com - This is by far the best looking parking page I have seen so far IMHO Clean - great Graphics, layout and uncluttered look.

nameservers point to NETPLAYMEDIA.NET which is also a parking page ??

(It does'nt appear in the top 800 results on Google though ! maybe because of the lame page title ! )

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^ Looks like a custom job. An owner with this kind of name would be selling theirselves short by choosing a PPC company.
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^ Looks like a custom job. An owner with this kind of name would be selling theirselves short by choosing a PPC company.
Yeah very likely - Looks sweet though
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Great Idea


Now this is what we call as leading from the front...............great idea you guys have got and my best wishes are with you...................
just do it..........
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probably v2 functionality

but something similar to trafficclub but for templates. . . it select 5 templates (+ minisites) and the site will auto rotate through them for the first 30 days and whichever one gets top earnings (RPM) will get the default view . .. and reoptimize every 90 days or something. . .
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CFGuru, when do you plan launch of this new "idea"???
It all sounds "too good to be true"

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Originally Posted by Parketeer.com
What you have talked about here we have done at: http://www.parketeer.com - Here are a few features:

1. System generates a 13 page "site"
2. You have the ability to customize your own page title and meta tags, page menu names and page names themselves.
3. Domainers can customize their own parking pages with header and css style
4. System automatically does the SEO
5. You can add affiliate links/banners, text links (client wide, site wide, each page)
6. Sites look natural with rss feeds
7. You keep 100% of the ad revenue
8. Flat fee $2 per month per domain (Bulk discounts)
9. Revenue share banners
10. Site map, will have google and yahoo site map.

http://www.cheeseburgers.ws - Example site

There are so many great features to mention it is hard to remember them all. I was also so busy my 11 year old daughter put 300+ domains into the system; takes about 2 minutes each.

The best part about the system is the SEO. We have gotten top listings on the sites in the system and all sites have retained their pagerank to date. We are domain owners and SEO experts and built the system to have a better place to park our domains. We don't control your adwords money, we don't live our company off of "the more money you make, the more money we take"

I look forward to any comments on what we have done.

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I understand that you are trying to do good things but just the thought of $2/domain/month is going to turn the serious domainers off.

If someone has 5000 domains then they need to pay $10,000 per month to you......wow......so most people will be net losers if they park with you unless you can guarantee Return On Investment.

Looks like you will be the only person getting rich.

May be some newbies will fall for it but not any serious domainers.

Don't get me wrong but you must be very amazed at your system's earning potential.

In order to breakeven people need to earn at least $31/domain/year using your system assuming an average of $7 registration fees and $24 parking fees.

Now I wonder why didn't mega parking companies such as sedo, domainsponsor, etc use your formula and charge people?
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Unless you can share with us why you think your system will make us more than $31/domain/year......I don't see why people will park with you.

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^ Yup, 98% of my domains make less than $2-3 per month. But those few that make more than that would probably do pretty good with Parketeer. It's pretty effective visually.
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^ Yup, 98% of my domains make less than $2-3 per month. But those few that make more than that would probably do pretty good with Parketeer. It's pretty effective visually.
I dont mean to elaborate on a thread I interupted in the first place although a little info may help the thread itself. Our system was made to be seo compatible so the traffic should go 10 fold after about 3 months. Another thing people forget is most of the other parking services take 50% of the revenue off the top and you are paying this fee on the back end and maybe don't realize it.
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Originally Posted by Parketeer.com
I dont mean to elaborate on a thread I interupted in the first place although a little info may help the thread itself. Our system was made to be seo compatible so the traffic should go 10 fold after about 3 months. Another thing people forget is most of the other parking services take 50% of the revenue off the top and you are paying this fee on the back end and maybe don't realize it.
So are you willing to forgo your fees for 3 months?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=254144

Why can't people make a template like your and then repeat it with different domains.

All they need is 10 dollar unlimited hosting account such as from hostgator etc.
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