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Please share the best tip you feel comfortable sharing.

  • Start small
  • Most of the time, freshly registered names aren't worth much
  • Sell to end users, not domainers


Hopefully we can get a nice little list. If you want to expand on an idea you made, please do so out of your initial list; this will keep the thread looking clean as well as providing helpful info.

Peter
 
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tpruby, then why bother according to u all the opportunity is gone?

The opportunity for hand regging an undeveloped dot com and expecting to sell it for huge profit, is long gone.

There are no instant riches in domaining....end of story.

Hard work, patience, determination and realistic expectation of what you are likely to achieve is what will keep you enjoying domaining and hopefully making a profit on your investment.

Head over to appraisals board, some people register the worst names you could ever imagine and then get so upset when they find out that there name is worth less than the reg fee.

Some peoples expectations are way too high in the domain name registration world.

I hope my post stops one person from registering something like buyreallycheappropertyindubai.com.
:lol:

There is lots of opportunity but there is no easy money in domaining.
 
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hi guys,
thanx for the tips above.looking for more.
 
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Coastalguy said:
Oh yeah...almost forgot:

Keep your day job! :lol:

(sorry, my bad...should have included this in my original post).

ST

This is the best advise!!!!
-Keep your job, because even know, that some people make living on domains, that does not guarantee, that a newbie can do the same...at least for a period of time till you know what are you doing!
-read this forum on a daily basis at least for 2 weeks before even thinking to register/purchase anything.
-read DN journal,
-to practice you should research, why exactly this or that name have been sold for certain price. IF you can answer to this question, consider that you did your homework.
 
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Thanks Intelbank.com

IntelBank.com said:
As a new domainer,

.5, Patience. It's a virtue, but also the key to surviving the domain game.

1, read the NamePros legal section FIRST! it's too easy to fall to the temptation of registering a name that actually is trademarked by someone else.

2, Either have a broad understanding of internet/domain dynamics or pick your niche(s) that you're well versed in. Why? Because in your area of expertise, you will know future developments, trends and product launches. This level of knowledge can give you a comfortable head start.

3, End User is KING!

4, Unfortunately, this industry is HIGHLY competitive. While NP has a great community, at the end of the day, everyone is striving to protect their interest, so don't expect anyone to share knowledge just because your name/NP ID is cute. (To this day i'm trying to figure out how some people are doing it: Spade, NameTrader, Yofie - just to name 3 that came to mind first...)

4.5, If you have "deeper" pockets, familiarize yourself with the Domain Auction Houses, such as Snapnames, TDNAM, Sedo, etc. and be on the lookout for drops - which is a science in itself....

5, PPC or Development. Never let your domains sit there and generate money for the likes of GoDaddy, etc. Once you own the domain, IMMEDIATELY park it until you get to develop it. While development should ALWAYS be the goal, there are some domains that are better being parked.

6, If you don't have these skills already, GET THEM! ASAP!! Which skills? Oh yeah, development (the evil word) ! It's vital, it's essential, it's your golden egg in the basket that you don't own just yet. Basic HTML, .php, JavaScript. Then there's the graphic aspect. Photoshop (Fireworks), Flash, etc. You don't have to be an expert, but you should be knowledegable to a certain extent, it's going to make your life easier.

6.5; You do have options then: Own domains for PPC. Develop domains for the long term. Buy undervalued sites and spruce them up for flipping. No one said that Flipping is restricted to Real Estate.

7, The most convenient solution for domainers: Domain Tasting. There's quite some controversy about this topic, I for one absolutely am in 100% favor of this practice. Make use of it with every domain you register. Some registrars are charging a small fee for tasting, which in the end will still save you tons of money. Register > Park: you realize that the domain you registered is insufficient in self support through parking > cancel the domain.

8, Network. Network and while you're at it, Network some more. It's all about who you know, how well established you are, your reputation, honesty, ethics, etc.

9, Read first, then ask. While new domainers are quickly forgiven when they ask redundant questions or questions that have been answered a billion times, nothing is more questionable than seeing the same question 10 times when the answer is sitting in the thread that's just one click away. If you read the threads and the answer is still not clear -> Ask as much as you can. Contradictory? Not really. Just Read > Then ask ;)

and the final #10, Be Persistent. Domaining as opposed to Stock Trading is not a business of dynamic. It's asking for a steady hand with sometimes long term vision.

That's my 10cents of domainer's knowledge. I should adhere to most of these points myself. But as always, it's easier to preach than to actually do.

IB

Thanks for the Great advice! _\|/_
 
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Thanks for all of the very good advice posted in this thread, i agree with so much of it, especially how often people recommend to do lots of research before beginning to purchase anything.

If i may add some thought and suggestions myself, while still fully respecting all of the advice available here and on other forums.

I would say that at the end of the day you have to remember that the men and women here and elsewhere in this business are your competitors, and while i believe that most will be genuine and give out good honest thoughts and views, you sometimes have to just go for it, remember that someone may try and steer you away from something because they have plans for the very thing that your talking about.

I dont mean they will deliberatly give out bad advice, they may not know themselves sometimes, but in business you can expect to be in fierce competition and i believe that with a combination of thorough research and common sense and your own gut feeling from time to time that most will be able to manage quite comfortably in this business.

In a nutshell, i would say dont believe every single last thing that your told or read, you must make your own mind up, think outside the box and take calculated risks.
 
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Sell

I have two domain names I would like to try an sell, But how do I do it? Is there any where that doesn't charge money up front to sell my names. eworldjewelry.org eworldjewelry.info Thanks Mike NEWBIE [email protected]
 
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I also felt the same things when i was newbie on this forum :(

Nice topic :)
 
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mlawrencemsc said:
I have two domain names I would like to try an sell, But how do I do it? Is there any where that doesn't charge money up front to sell my names. eworldjewelry.org eworldjewelry.info Thanks Mike NEWBIE [email protected]
You can list your domains on one of the many auction sites (Sedo, TDNAM (charges an annual fee), and many independents. Another hot tip would be to list the domains you'd like to sell right here on NP in the Domains for sale section: Just click on "Marketplace" and choose the appropriate thread for your sales.
However, while you're waiting for an offer to come in, which may happen immediately or never, or anytime in between, i heavily encourage to at least park your domains to retain the option to make at least a few cents here and there in the meantime.
If you need any parking help, shoot me a PM.

IB
 
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wow me being a newbie thanks for the advice i'm a new domain owner this is just the beginning for me i welcome myself some of the advice on here is good i have a lot of questions but reading, sharing thoughts and ideas i truly will learn from this
 
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Marbles21: I must admit I really don't post on forums that often - too busy making $$$. :) However, I thought I'd share this with you:

Find yourself a niche, get to know exactly what people are looking for and give them what they want. Spend time doing your research (it will save you $$$ in the long run) and focus. Once you build up a small portfolio in that niche, then diversify.

Best of luck - its a great industry to be in.
 
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Mike said:
As a new domainer,

.5, Patience. It's a virtue, but also the key to surviving the domain game.

1, read the NamePros legal section FIRST! it's too easy to fall to the temptation of registering a name that actually is trademarked by someone else.

2, Either have a broad understanding of internet/domain dynamics or pick your niche(s) that you're well versed in. Why? Because in your area of expertise, you will know future developments, trends and product launches. This level of knowledge can give you a comfortable head start.

3, End User is KING!

4, Unfortunately, this industry is HIGHLY competitive. While NP has a great community, at the end of the day, everyone is striving to protect their interest, so don't expect anyone to share knowledge just because your name/NP ID is cute. (To this day i'm trying to figure out how some people are doing it: Spade, NameTrader, Yofie - just to name 3 that came to mind first...)

4.5, If you have "deeper" pockets, familiarize yourself with the Domain Auction Houses, such as Snapnames, TDNAM, Sedo, etc. and be on the lookout for drops - which is a science in itself....

5, PPC or Development. Never let your domains sit there and generate money for the likes of GoDaddy, etc. Once you own the domain, IMMEDIATELY park it until you get to develop it. While development should ALWAYS be the goal, there are some domains that are better being parked.

6, If you don't have these skills already, GET THEM! ASAP!! Which skills? Oh yeah, development (the evil word) ! It's vital, it's essential, it's your golden egg in the basket that you don't own just yet. Basic HTML, .php, JavaScript. Then there's the graphic aspect. Photoshop (Fireworks), Flash, etc. You don't have to be an expert, but you should be knowledegable to a certain extent, it's going to make your life easier.

6.5; You do have options then: Own domains for PPC. Develop domains for the long term. Buy undervalued sites and spruce them up for flipping. No one said that Flipping is restricted to Real Estate.

7, The most convenient solution for domainers: Domain Tasting. There's quite some controversy about this topic, I for one absolutely am in 100% favor of this practice. Make use of it with every domain you register. Some registrars are charging a small fee for tasting, which in the end will still save you tons of money. Register > Park: you realize that the domain you registered is insufficient in self support through parking > cancel the domain.

8, Network. Network and while you're at it, Network some more. It's all about who you know, how well established you are, your reputation, honesty, ethics, etc.

9, Read first, then ask. While new domainers are quickly forgiven when they ask redundant questions or questions that have been answered a billion times, nothing is more questionable than seeing the same question 10 times when the answer is sitting in the thread that's just one click away. If you read the threads and the answer is still not clear -> Ask as much as you can. Contradictory? Not really. Just Read > Then ask ;)

and the final #10, Be Persistent. Domaining as opposed to Stock Trading is not a business of dynamic. It's asking for a steady hand with sometimes long term vision.

That's my 10cents of domainer's knowledge. I should adhere to most of these points myself. But as always, it's easier to preach than to actually do.

IB
Thanks for this great tips! Yes development should ALWAYS be the goal.
 
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I like your point here...

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When you get an offer for the domain just dont blindly accept. A little counter offer and bargaining may take the prices up by 1000% :)
 
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Don't buy into hype.

Every month or 2 there's a new product / trend / idea that becomes the new 'thing'. The result is usually hundreds of ridiculous names that people register to squeeze themselves into the space. They usually end up in the "fire sale" thread within a few months - but definitely within a year (renewal time). For example just search here for wii, blook, zune, knol, umpc to name but a few.
 
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Hello everybody. I wonder if you can help me to know, how can i get a Domain in namepros?

Thanks.
 
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DADomains said:
I have to say, I am a little confused by the mixed attitudes towards TMs and typos. I have read in the parking threads from people who claim to be making lots of money from TM and typos, and other people responding with kudos towards this income. But elsewhere people are telling newbies, in no uncertain terms, to steer clear of them.

What's a newbies, like me, to do then? I am sure most people are in this for the money, and if there is money in TM's and typos....? :-/
Sorry, I don't believe half of these people...Some people are nice but lot's of them IMO do not want any new comp in their little domain game biz! Do what you have to do & mistakes will be made. Keep learning that's what i'm doing. GL!
 
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Just pull some threads in the legal section from people who have gotten hammered with lawsuits over TMed names. That's why people suggest staying away. It's up to you but you're playing with a loaded gun and have to ask if it's really worth the risk.

Typos of generics is another story. Nothing wrong there.
 
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Mike (INTELBANK)

A great post, however, I have one question regarding point number 6.
This is my problem, skills, I have none but I am clear about what I want to develop and how. I always needed soemone to develop this or that. Is there a compnay out there that can/develops for newbies at a extremely reasonable rates? E.g blogs/sites etc to allow one to get started without loosing too much time trying to aquire the skills ina hurry.
 
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producer007 said:
Mike (INTELBANK)

A great post, however, I have one question regarding point number 6.
This is my problem, skills, I have none but I am clear about what I want to develop and how. I always needed soemone to develop this or that. Is there a compnay out there that can/develops for newbies at a extremely reasonable rates? E.g blogs/sites etc to allow one to get started without loosing too much time trying to aquire the skills ina hurry.

Fwiw, if you get a hosting package with something like fantasico in cpanel (I use Hostgator), you can basically point and click to install lots of free web software - blogs, forums, etc. It's extremely simple.
 
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Phronesis, thanks but you really do not know how bad I am. I just signed up to hostgator and guesss what? I can't even set the domains addons....lol
It will be funny if it was not so sad. I suppose I am good at other things but not technical. The thing is that once I am shown, I know how to do it. I am thinking of paying someone to spend few hours with me and show me how - any ideas?
 
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