Please appraise: 2267.mobi. Stands for "Cams.mobi" on cellular phones - Page 2

dgridley · 11-01-2006, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

Oh. Yes, of course. How silly of me to think of cell phones when we are talking about .mobi.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/253051-please-appraise-2267-mobi-stands-cams.html
Now I change my appraisal. It is worth about $800,000.

Anthony-Martin · 11-01-2006, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

When I type the numbers 2-2-6-7 on my phone's browser, I get "bmp".
To get "cams" I have to type 2-2-2-pause-2-6-7-7-7-7.
To get 2267 in my browser I have to type 2-2-2-2-pause-2-2-2-2-6-6-6-6-7-7-7-7-7.
Therefore I agree that 2267.mobi is not worth anything without big marketing efforts to brand it.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051
Sigh... What a strange philosophy. We are talking about standard phonepad (not the one on your cell phone)...

RegFee · 11-01-2006, 04:32 PM

This thread is getting so confusing. Why did I subscribe to it?

So, even though I can't assume this is going to be used for an adult domain, I have an idea: if you DID make an adult site, and just kept the title of the site "2267.mobi", if someone's wife checks into their phone browser's history, they will think their husband just has a weird fetish with numbers and won't check it out.

paxton · 11-01-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony-Martin

I guess it is because people do not yet fully understand the value of numeric domains.

I would like to think I understand the value of numeric domains. I have been investing in them for years and have done quite a bit of research on them for a long period of time.

One strong reason for owning numeric domains has always been potential phone abbreviations (think SMS) as well as a substitute for words in mobile business services (see http://worddial.com). Investors in this niche have targeted the dot com numerical domains, assuming they would be the best play in this regard. Of course there are many other reasons that numerical domains have value outside of mobile communications.

As the dot MOBI extension has been rolled out, investors and speculators have registered all the top number combinations. It remains to be seen if numerical mobi domains will be the better play (vs dot com numerics). I'm on the fence. It's hard to know for sure what will happen with this extension.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

My gut feeling is that telephone operators and mobile networks will not let any type-ins default to any extension (not dot COM, not dot MOBI, not dot anything). I can't imagine businesses would want to "lose" their surfers to outside competitors - such as 3rd party websites. I always think of the original AOL and their little internet system. When users would login to the AOL platform and type in Keywords, the results would always be directed to some AOL affiliate or AOL partner company. They never let their precious little surfers leave the proprietary network unless they explicitly opened a web browser and entered a complete URL including the extension.

So back to numerics. If a wireless subscriber opens their mobile browser and types in three or four or five digits and hits enter... what will happen? Are we to assume that the cell phone manufacturers/network operators will have configured their system so that the user is automatically taken to a website with a dot MOBI extension? or a dot COM?

When I open my phone browser today, I am taken to a mobile portal that my wireless provider makes as a Home page or starting point. To get to an application that lets me enter a direct URL I have to navigate through a couple of pages including a sneaky little window that has the option to "Enter URL..." - an option that is on page 2 of the sneaky little menu. In other words, they don't make it simple for the common user to just open the mobile phone web browser and type in address to navigate to. And when I do enter a domain without an extension, the result is an HTTP 400 error.

In my opinion, for numeric mobis to be a success - especially in regard to using them as abbreviations for letters/words/etc - the dot MOBI extension has to be universally accepted as the de facto standard for mobile browsing. I doubt users are going to manually punch in full dot mobi URLs that include the .mobi extension on their mobile phones (for the obvious reasons). And based upon what I typed earlier, I'm not sold that that businesses are just going to all agree to let mobile users reach 3rd party websites/applications as the default method of operation when a user types in a bunch of keys at a menu or portal page.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

I apologize for my verbosity - as this is an appraisal thread. Right now, I see there is definite value in dot mobi domains. Both in generic alpha domains as well as short and relevant numeric domains. The marketplace may or may not be a bubble currently for .MOBI. Time will tell. But in the present, solid numerics are being exchanged for substantial amounts because investors/speculators are willing to pay far more above reg fee for them.

As for 2267.mobi (the numeric equivalent of CAMS.mobi), I don't consider it to be a premium numeric combination. It was available to register yesterday, so most of the mobi investors/speculators had passed on it before you. Something similar, such as 8427.mobi (which corresponds to VIDS.mobi) is available to register. I'm not saying VIDS is as nice as CAMS or that 8427 is just as nice as 2267 for a numeric combination - I'm just using it as an example. I would like to think the owner of CAMS.MOBI would be interested in owning 2267.mobi to secure / insure his domain. Perhaps others would also think it was a worthwhile domain to own patiently as it might appreciate in value over time.

AMDWarrior · 11-01-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

Oh. Yes, of course. How silly of me to think of cell phones when we are talking about .mobi.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051
Now I change my appraisal. It is worth about $800,000.

dgridley · 11-01-2006, 04:54 PM

Insightful.. thanks... rep added.

Originally Posted by paxton

I would like to think I understand the value of numeric domains. I have been investing in them for years and have done quite a bit of research on them for a long period of time.

One strong reason for owning numeric domains has always been potential phone abbreviations (think SMS) as well as a substitute for words in mobile business services (see http://worddial.com). Investors in this niche have targeted the dot com numerical domains, assuming they would be the best play in this regard. Of course there are many other reasons that numerical domains have value outside of mobile communications.

As the dot MOBI extension has been rolled out, investors and speculators have registered all the top number combinations. It remains to be seen if numerical mobi domains will be the better play (vs dot com numerics). I'm on the fence. It's hard to know for sure what will happen with this extension.

My gut feeling is that telephone operators and mobile networks will not let any type-ins default to any extension (not dot COM, not dot MOBI, not dot anything). I can't imagine businesses would want to "lose" their surfers to outside competitors - such as 3rd party websites. I always think of the original AOL and their little internet system. When users would login to the AOL platform and type in Keywords, the results would always be directed to some AOL affiliate or AOL partner company. They never let their precious little surfers leave the proprietary network unless they explicitly opened a web browser and entered a complete URL including the extension.

So back to numerics. If a wireless subscriber opens their mobile browser and types in three or four or five digits and hits enter... what will happen? Are we to assume that the cell phone manufacturers/network operators will have configured their system so that the user is automatically taken to a website with a dot MOBI extension? or a dot COM?

When I open my phone browser today, I am taken to a mobile portal that my wireless provider makes as a Home page or starting point. To get to an application that lets me enter a direct URL I have to navigate through a couple of pages including a sneaky little window that has the option to "Enter URL..." - an option that is on page 2 of the sneaky little menu. In other words, they don't make it simple for the common user to just open the mobile phone web browser and type in address to navigate to. And when I do enter a domain without an extension, the result is an HTTP 400 error.

In my opinion, for numeric mobis to be a success - especially in regard to using them as abbreviations for letters/words/etc - the dot MOBI extension has to be universally accepted as the de facto standard for mobile browsing. I doubt users are going to manually punch in full dot mobi URLs that include the .mobi extension on their mobile phones (for the obvious reasons). And based upon what I typed earlier, I'm not sold that that businesses are just going to all agree to let mobile users reach 3rd party websites/applications as the default method of operation when a user types in a bunch of keys at a menu or portal page.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

I apologize for my verbosity - as this is an appraisal thread. Right now, I see there is definite value in dot mobi domains. Both in generic alpha domains as well as short and relevant numeric domains. The marketplace may or may not be a bubble currently for .MOBI. Time will tell. But in the present, solid numerics are being exchanged for substantial amounts because investors/speculators are willing to pay far more above reg fee for them.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

As for 2267.mobi (the numeric equivalent of CAMS.mobi), I don't consider it to be a premium numeric combination. It was available to register yesterday, so most of the mobi investors/speculators had passed on it before you. Something similar, such as 8427.mobi (which corresponds to VIDS.mobi) is available to register. I'm not saying VIDS is as nice as CAMS or that 8427 is just as nice as 2267 for a numeric combination - I'm just using it as an example. I would like to think the owner of CAMS.MOBI would be interested in owning 2267.mobi to secure / insure his domain. Perhaps others would also think it was a worthwhile domain to own patiently as it might appreciate in value over time.

Anthony-Martin · 11-01-2006, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by RegFee

This thread is getting so confusing. Why did I subscribe to it?

You subscribed to it cause you tend to appraise everything at RegFee.

Originally Posted by RegFee

So, even though I can't assume this is going to be used for an adult domain, I have an idea: if you DID make an adult site, and just kept the title of the site "2267.mobi", if someone's wife checks into their phone browser's history, they will think their husband just has a weird fetish with numbers and won't check it out.

OK, you can make an adult site out of 2267.mobi, and I will pay you %50 of the sale.

Why do you almost all guys think Cams always are associated with ADULT CAMS? These might be street cams, for instance.

Originally Posted by paxton

As for 2267.mobi (the numeric equivalent of CAMS.mobi), I don't consider it to be a premium numeric combination. It was available to register yesterday, so most of the mobi investors/speculators had passed on it before you. Something similar, such as 8427.mobi (which corresponds to VIDS.mobi) is available to register. I'm not saying VIDS is as nice as CAMS or that 8427 is just as nice as 2267 for a numeric combination - I'm just using it as an example. I would like to think the owner of CAMS.MOBI would be interested in owning 2267.mobi to secure / insure his domain. Perhaps others would also think it was a worthwhile domain to own patiently as it might appreciate in value over time.

I appreciate this suggestion. If you are an experienced marketer/negotiator, then I can grant you permission to contact them about this domain, and if they buy it, then you will get %20 commission. Please PM me if interested.

allnicksgone · 11-01-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony-Martin

Sigh... What a strange philosophy. We are talking about standard phonepad (not the one on your cell phone)...

Then it wasn't you that named this thread "Please appraise: 2267.mobi. Stands for "Cams.mobi" on cellular phones"?

RegFee · 11-01-2006, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony-Martin

OK, you can make an adult site out of 2267.mobi, and I will pay you %50 of the sale.

Why do you almost all guys think Cams always are associated with ADULT CAMS? These might be street cams, for instance.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

Darn, I thought that was a good idea.

Ok, let's say you don't want your wife to know you have a traffic cam fetish...

Never mind...unsubscribing.

By the way: RegFee

Anthony-Martin · 11-01-2006, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

Then it wasn't you that named this thread "Please appraise: 2267.mobi. Stands for "Cams.mobi" on cellular phones"?

Hey, I meant that your cellular phone must be something VERY special

. Since on my cellular phone letters ABC correspond to 1, DEF to 2, and so on.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=253051

Better tell me, are you an experienced domain marketer?

allnicksgone · 11-01-2006, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by RegFee

Never mind...unsubscribing.

Ditto

Anthony-Martin · 11-02-2006, 04:57 AM

Any more opinions, guys?

Thx.

unknownserv · 11-02-2006, 05:46 AM

I would much rather type "cams" on my mobile (cellular) phone than "2267". When I open my mobile web browser, i'd have to press more buttons either way (by just pressing the keys multiple times, or switching into numeric mode) than I would typing "cams".

Jasdon · 11-02-2006, 06:31 AM

I understand where you're coming from - I own 8477.mobi ('tips', as in horse racing) and 2387.mobi (for 'bets')

But don't kid yourself - without putting effort into developing or at least branding, they are not worth anything above what we paid for them.

BTW, 2267 could also mean 'camp' and 8477 could be 'vips' - now do you see the need for awareness and branding?

Jammer · 11-02-2006, 10:12 AM

I suspect that four number domains will be the next to sell out.I see value in the name.
Hold tight.

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RegFee DNOA Certified Seller Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,680	This thread is getting so confusing. Why did I subscribe to it? So, even though I can't assume this is going to be used for an adult domain, I have an idea: if you DID make an adult site, and just kept the title of the site "2267.mobi", if someone's wife checks into their phone browser's history, they will think their husband just has a weird fetish with numbers and won't check it out. __________________ Nombrex.com

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unknownserv NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 261	I would much rather type "cams" on my mobile (cellular) phone than "2267". When I open my mobile web browser, i'd have to press more buttons either way (by just pressing the keys multiple times, or switching into numeric mode) than I would typing "cams".

11-02-2006, 06:31 AM	#39 (permalink)
Jasdon Account Closed Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,014	I understand where you're coming from - I own 8477.mobi ('tips', as in horse racing) and 2387.mobi (for 'bets') But don't kid yourself - without putting effort into developing or at least branding, they are not worth anything above what we paid for them. BTW, 2267 could also mean 'camp' and 8477 could be 'vips' - now do you see the need for awareness and branding?

11-02-2006, 10:12 AM	#40 (permalink)
Jammer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,495	I suspect that four number domains will be the next to sell out.I see value in the name. Hold tight.

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