Originally Posted by nombre

as you know the mobi tld has mandated second level domain siting to eliminate the need to type www with browser defaults which i am more certain are going to be implemented, the user merely types hamburger into the address bar and he goes immediately to hamburger.mobi

I also forgot about the www. thing. Thanks for reminding us

Is anyone using Wurfl at all ? I am trying to find a list of http user agents with screen sizes only. Is there one about anywhere ?

Help. I am trying to put up some mobi sites.

I used the mobi templates and have tried to put a site up on dees.mobi.

What am I doing wrong ? My browsers do not pick up the index.xhtml file??

I edited the templates in Dreamweaver.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by ginggang

Is anyone using Wurfl at all ? I am trying to find a list of http user agents with screen sizes only. Is there one about anywhere ?

I am not a big fan of Wurfl.

Michael :)

Originally Posted by mykel241

I am not a big fan of Wurfl. Michael :)

I am very curious why? I have no opinion on it yet and would appreciate your thoughts.

Originally Posted by mykel241

I am not a big fan of Wurfl. Michael :)

I'm just getting familiar with it. What are you thoughts then ? Something that can deliver device specific content might be a good thing ?

Butler for PC and mobile
 

Appologies if this has been posted before... In the future I would like to serve up a mobi compliant site to mobiles and a full blown site to users on a PC. What would I need to do? Also, the languages going to be used are asp and vbscript. Will these scripts if run server side, still produce the results I would like to display on a mobile. Ex. search function. Someone searches for something on my mobile site, that data is passed to my asp search page and then sent back to the mobile? Am I going to run into a one way dead street?... Am I trying to staple jello to a tree?

Originally Posted by oxford11

Appologies if this has been posted before... In the future I would like to serve up a mobi compliant site to mobiles and a full blown site to users on a PC. What would I need to do? Also, the languages going to be used are asp and vbscript. Will these scripts if run server side, still produce the results I would like to display on a mobile. Ex. search function. Someone searches for something on my mobile site, that data is passed to my asp search page and then sent back to the mobile? Am I going to run into a one way dead street?... Am I trying to staple jello to a tree?

That is the role of WURFL, but it won't help you with the jello :)

Though I will continue with my attempt to one day staple jello to a tree, because I'm persistent or an idiot(no feedback please), what's the best source for wurl brush up or refresher reading.

Scandiman wrote:That is the role of WURFL, but it won't help you with the jello

Scandi... where's the positive thinking on my jello problem

Originally Posted by oxford11

Though I will continue with my attempt to one day staple jello to a tree, because I'm persistent or an idiot(no feedback please), what's the best source for wurl brush up or refresher reading.

http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ . Don't know if it's the best.

Originally Posted by ginggang

http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ . Don't know if it's the best.

Ok... after reading wurfl documentation, i'm not convinced. I was looking for something more along the lines of the following....

Using the http_user_agent detect if the connection is coming from a pc or mobile. Now I think that it would make sense to detect a pc browser because there are less of them compared to mobile phones. If its a pc, redirect them... if it's a mobile do nothing and display a .mobi compliant site.

and I need to do this in an asp/vbscript environment... any help greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by oxford11

Ok... after reading wurfl documentation, i'm not convinced. I was looking for something more along the lines of the following.... Using the http_user_agent detect if the connection is coming from a pc or mobile. Now I think that it would make sense to detect a pc browser because there are less of them compared to mobile phones. If its a pc, redirect them... if it's a mobile do nothing and display a .mobi compliant site. and I need to do this in an asp/vbscript environment... any help greatly appreciated.

Bump

Great Codes - it helped me launch three wap sites just in a flick :)

Check out:
NewsOnMobile.mobi
MusicOnMobile.mobi
GamesOnMobile.mobi

Thanks,

JS

I'm getting the following error code when I click on a page link at the NewsOnMobile.mobi site:

"This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below."

Good luck with developing your sites.

-acc

.mobi is unnecessary, and this is why:
 

4x4mobile.com explains it.

One: If we believe that a domain should be as short as possible, then the counting should go over SLD+TLD= total characters.
Two: Most mobile browsers seem to work fine with W3 HTML 4.01. Why then bother with WAP etc.?
Three: If a given phone does not display html properly, then the Opera Mobile browser is usually a solution.
Four: Internet-capable cell phones are now so cheap that it should not be option to buy one that cannot access html webs.

We try to have .com + .net + .org + .tv extensions for our domains, but we will never invest in .mobi that breaks down the principles of W3 and efficiency if we can do it short, simple and cheap with html.

Maybe, .mobi is just another invention to give registrars, appraisers and resellers some business.
We don't mind about that.
This message is for who may be interested.

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to remove this error that the mobi validator gives on dev.mobi

Your page does not use XHTML Mobile Profile
XHTML-MP should be used as the default markup for your pages. Use of XHTML-MP ensures that your pages will work on the widest variety of mobile devices as well as on desktop browsers. The following graph shows how XHTML-MP is supported by the overwhelming majority of mobile browsers.
PASS near line 0, col 0
Doctype correctly specified as:
-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN
FAIL near line 0, col 0
Your page does not validate against -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN


I see a lot of sites fail on it but I would like to know how to fix it.

see my sig for a starter template (I sold www.muf.mobi so not sure how long the template will be on that address but for now it is still pointed to my servers.)

you can then modify the template 1 step at a time till you get what you want.

Originally Posted by Mr. Deleted

see my sig for a starter template (I sold www.muf.mobi so not sure how long the template will be on that address but for now it is still pointed to my servers.) you can then modify the template 1 step at a time till you get what you want.

Does the same thing..trying to figure out what is going on. :cry:

Why would this happen ?. Just taking your code straight and it fails.No matter what I do my site fails on this. How should I be saving your code ?. Something I am doing wrong ?

Are 3gp and mp4 the only video formats for cellphones? I wanted to ask at dev.mobi but that place is abandoned and spam-packed!

Originally Posted by CharlieA

Are 3gp and mp4 the only video formats for cellphones? I wanted to ask at dev.mobi but that place is abandoned and spam-packed!

3GP, 3G2 (3gpp) and MPEG4 (.mp4) are the most typical but it would depend on the phone / pda. Some are able to play mpeg1 / AVI/MP4 / WMV and a lot more. Thankfully even adobe's flash is coming to mobile http://www.beet.tv/2007/02/adobes_flash_vi.html

Originally Posted by ginggang

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to remove this error that the mobi validator gives on dev.mobi Your page does not use XHTML Mobile Profile XHTML-MP should be used as the default markup for your pages. Use of XHTML-MP ensures that your pages will work on the widest variety of mobile devices as well as on desktop browsers. The following graph shows how XHTML-MP is supported by the overwhelming majority of mobile browsers. PASS near line 0, col 0 Doctype correctly specified as: -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN FAIL near line 0, col 0 Your page does not validate against -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN I see a lot of sites fail on it but I would like to know how to fix it.

The report fails even against this

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/xhtml-mobile10.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<html>
<BODY>
test
</BODY>
</HTML>

Can any tell me what the problem is ? Driving me nuts.

You have two opening <html> tags and you have tags in capital letters. There are also no head and title tags.

Why so complicated? Paradigm shift -> http://W2.ms
 

I have a Cpanel server, so all my domains are accessible both with and without "www". There is no .mobi necesary for that. Domains for mobiles are simple W3 validated html 4.01.
My email is redirected to my vodafone account, so I read it all over the world.
Also, if domainers think that shorter is better, then two-character TLD's are worth much more than three and four character extensions.
There is a paradigm shift taking place: LL.mobi and LL.info may be just as handy to remember and to type in as LL.ms and LLLL.ms. Since there are more dictionary words under LLLL than under LL, mobi will not last long. IMHO the current rush for short CC domains is allready taking place.
I hope for all .mobi investors that I'm wrong. As for me, I stepped in the .ms business. Yes: W2.ms.

^^ What does that have to do with anything being discussed in this thread?

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I have a Cpanel server, so all my domains are accessible both with and without "www". There is no .mobi necesary for that. Domains for mobiles are simple W3 validated html 4.01. My email is redirected to my vodafone account, so I read it all over the world. Also, if domainers think that shorter is better, then two-character TLD's are worth much more than three and four character extensions. There is a paradigm shift taking place: LL.mobi and LL.info may be just as handy to remember and to type in as LL.ms and LLLL.ms. Since there are more dictionary words under LLLL than under LL, mobi will not last long. IMHO the current rush for short CC domains is allready taking place. I hope for all .mobi investors that I'm wrong. As for me, I stepped in the .ms business. Yes: W2.ms.

what the heck are you trying to say ? :confused: