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How about more (new) landers, Keith?

netmeg said:

How about more (new) landers, Keith?

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Thanks for posting that, I was about to ask the same question :] IMO the current set is decent but I wouldn't mind a few more templates. Maybe visitors are going to get tired of seeing the same screens over and over

Additional questions/suggestions:

• What about compliant HTML code ? Shouldn't be hard to achieve
• What about optimizing the meta tags (keyword, description) for the search engines ?
• What about customizing pages with our own pictures (like Bodis) ?
• What about other customization features like choice of fonts and colors (so we can build variations around the existing templates)
• What about seasonal templates (Halloween, Xmas etc)
• More to be added...

netmeg said:

How about more (new) landers, Keith?

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I agree. More graphical landers like the Retro/Phoenix/and Adult Templates. I don't know if I need more font choices or things like that, but that is just me personally. Sometimes it seems like there are too many options, I don't need so many options, just the really essential one.

As far as new templates, some more specific ones would be nice. Trafficz has very good sports related templates. Both Trafficz and Namedrive have very good Real Estate templates. This is a category that should definately be made. Also, I have many video game/computer game related domains. I think that it is a shame that I have to lump them all under the "Casino" category. There should be a category for gambling related names, and one for gaming names.

Keith (and this is specifically to Keith not 'Sleepy'), if I remember rightly I saw a post either on here or DNF where it was disclosed that Google pays Sedo 42.5% of advertising revenue (I will do a search for the specific post later). You say that every domainer then gets a minimum of 50% of what Google pays Sedo, i.e. 21.25% of the advertisers bill. Therefore if an advertiser pays $1 for a click then the domainer will get at least $0.21 per click.

Now let us work a little sum backwards if we may please. If a domainer gets $0.02 per click then this equates to the advertiser paying only $0.10 per click to the advertising company. Can you confirm this please so that with a little investigation we can all find these advertising companies that charge so little to the advertiser.

Your co-operation would be much appreciated on this point.

Also can you specifically answer 'Scandiman's' comment about the Sedo statement and the 'right' that Sedo gave unlawfully to mTLD. It is Thursday today, so if you check with the legal od-bods you can post their answer tomorrow on here. Or is it a case whereby your legal team do not even know what day of the week it is at the moment.

By the way, congratulations for getting those little christmas gifts out, only 5 days later than promised.

TheBaldOne said:

Keith (and this is specifically to Keith not 'Sleepy')

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:hehe: I wouldn't be able to answer any part of that one anyway.

TheBaldOne said:

Now let us work a little sum backwards if we may please. If a domainer gets $0.02 per click then this equates to the advertiser paying only $0.10 per click to the advertising company. Can you confirm this please so that with a little investigation we can all find these advertising companies that charge so little to the advertiser.

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I'll stand up to that - I'm one of those advertisers. For my clients, I run about 15,000 keywords in Google, and maybe 5000 in Yahoo & MSN, and thousands of those are running anywhere from .02 to .10. It's my job to get the cheapest advertising for my clients that I can.

I also run keywords for which we pay up to $27 per click as well.

Well I will wait for Keith to answer so that it is official, but Netmeg, if you can do that then please advertise your services on here because a lot of us would be paying through the nose for advertising it would seem. Nutmeg this could be your opportunity, take it with both hands and then we can all deal with you.

but if you are paying $0.02 a click for your advertisers that means that a domainer would get $0.0045 a click, in other words nothing, so why should the domainer have your adverts on their domain parking page? If this is what Sedo are doing then they are not looking after the interests of the domainers at all.

TheBaldOne said:

Well I will wait for Keith to answer so that it is official, but Netmeg, if you can do that then please advertise your services on here because a lot of us would be paying through the nose for advertising it would seem. Nutmeg this could be your opportunity, take it with both hands and then we can all deal with you.

but if you are paying $0.02 a click for your advertisers that means that a domainer would get $0.0045 a click, in other words nothing, so why should the domainer have your adverts on their domain parking page? If this is what Sedo are doing then they are not looking after the interests of the domainers at all.

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TheBaldOne, you are having a problem with the market as far as I understand what you're saying, not netmeg (BTW, note the two E letters).

Right?

I got all the opportunity I can handle. And maybe there just isn't any incentive for the domainer to run ads at that level, but there's still the search networks and the content networks that will. If I take on a client's PPC account, my obligation is to him.

Now, I'm a domainer too, AND a publisher using AdSense. (I deliberately don't work in any niches for which I have current PPC clients, to avoid conflict of interest. But I have learned about niches from previous customers) And I'm not crazy about .02 clicks either. But they're a fact of life. The search engines are *never* going to let anyone set a minimum bid for advertising on their website or parked page, because obviously nobody would choose the two cent and five cent clicks, and that would leave the search engines (particularly Google) with either a whole of low priced ad inventory that it can't place, or a whole lot of pissed off advertisers not willing to pay more.

This is the SEDO item, and I apologize for kind of hijacking it with this. But I hear all the time, from domainers and from publishers about how they don't want to have clicks below a certain level on their site. And if you're talking about search engine ads, that's just not going to change in the near future.

Oh MC,

How do you jump to that conclusion?

Are my figures wrong?

Is what I say incorrect?

I am having no problem with the market, looking at trader ratings on here I would say I am doing pretty fine thank you, unlike others may be.

Keep to the points in question, but as I say, let's wait for the official Sedo response here! If you know what I mean. :hehe:

Sedo said:

re: double clicks: Checking on that now. I will get back with the info as soon as I have it.

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Sedo FAQ, point 15, sais:

"Please note double views and manipulated clicks can be detected by our system and are filtered out. Multiple clicks and views from the same user (IP address) are also not counted. If views or clicks are manipulated, we are obliged to remove your domains from the parking program and withhold revenue."

Hi TheBaldOne,

To be honest, I don't know how much Sedo is paid for any given click, and because of our contract with the ad provider, I wouldn't be able to disclose it. Also, they don't tell us how much a sponsor pays to begin with. As much as I'd like to answer that question with more than that, I can't. Again, though, I will try to get back with as much info as possible in answer to your earlier question about double clicks, aside from the FAQ information posted above.

As far as the .MOBI auction is concerned, and the decisions made regarding it, I've already given all the information I can. It might not be good enough for those who are interested, but it's all I have. I really wish I could give you all the answers you're seeking, but I believe those will come with time. For now, your patience is extremely appreciated.

@ netmeg & sdsinc: I don't work directly with the parking department. I know my fair share of information about it, but in terms of plans and the vision for the future, it's not conveyed until changes are closer to reality. We have been adding new images relatively regularly (custom images can run into trouble sometimes in terms of copyright issues), and new templates are always on the minds of everyone involved with parking here at Sedo.

Fresh ideas are always welcome. I guarantee that they will be shared, and if any of them are definitely coming to pass, I'll let you know!

So for everyone: I firmly believe that the coming months will be good ones, and that any recent mistakes will only help us look forward and make improvements where and when needed. Please keep suggestions coming!

Sedo said:

Questions, comments, suggestions, tips are welcome!

Keith
(on behalf of Sedo)

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I have got a question.I heard from alot of people who banned from sedo's parking program in the ban email saying natural traffic.In Sedo parking What is natural traffic? for example a person has got revenue last month 500 usd he has got 30 domains however only 1 domain has suspended by google then you withhold this domain's revenue 50 usd because of 1 domain you banned this person from the system ,Sedo did this many times, after that how about 450 usd ,who will you give 450 usd ? will you give it back to advertisers? free advertising? 450 usd revenue is not fraud according to two parties, but you banned the person from the system without giving money.

TheBaldOne said:

Oh MC,

How do you jump to that conclusion?

Are my figures wrong?

Is what I say incorrect?

I am having no problem with the market, looking at trader ratings on here I would say I am doing pretty fine thank you, unlike others may be.

Keep to the points in question, but as I say, let's wait for the official Sedo response here! If you know what I mean. :hehe:

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I was just making sure you're not questioning netmeg's objectivity but rather questioning why the market works the way it does.

That's why I asked a question and didn't presume.

Keith, what about refunding the ad-providers for multiple clicks, after all you don't pay the domainer for them (yet other companies have no problem so doing)? This one really needs an answer. You may just want to refresh your memory by looking at Dedekind's post #52 above.

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Oh you will love this one Keith. When we as domainers sign on to Sedo is that an online contract that is formed between Sedo and the domain parker?

Clarification here will be helpful to us all, again I suggest contacting your legal od-bods about this, but we can wait until tomorrow for the answer.

I am continually losing the Sedo Pro Parking link on my Sedo homepage, same today so cannot access info- anybody else have similar problems. :?

Thanks

Wot

What do you mean by losing? You mean you can't find it on the page,or it has disapeared from the page completely?

wot said:

I am continually losing the Sedo Pro Parking link on my Sedo homepage, same today so cannot access info- anybody else have similar problems. :?

Thanks

Wot

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i'm having same issue.

Here's a few things I'd like to see on sedo.

1. A configurable minimum earnings per click. Or at least a better minimum based on geographical area of the click. I have some domains getting $.02 clicks and I know they are getting good quality traffic. (minimal traffic, but definately good quality targeted traffic.) When it comes right down to it I'd rather show no ad than give high quality traffic away for $.02.

I am sure I've got some domains that probably deserve the $.02 clicks as well. Perhaps you could certify domains as high quality and have certified domains set to a higher minimum epc.

2. The ability to block specific advertisers from my domains. This hasn't been a problem for me on sedo so far, (unlike other companies) but I'd still like to have the feature.

3. Better Keyword optimization tools. I can think of at least one name in my sedo account that gets like 15 visits a month. Its really hard to select the right keyword when you get so little traffic. The name is a good name and the traffic is all type in. I'd like to see some tools to help suggest keywords that may do better, have higher advertiser competition, ect.

4. Some sort of graphical customization. Several of my names are japanese anime related. I have little doubt that most people after typing in one of these names expect to see some anime artwork on the screen. Regardless of how good the template looks it doesn't catch their eye.

Ideally I would like to see an option for users who want to create their own parking page. Perhaps with sedo providing the code for a few different size IFrame ad blocks and the user could insert the frame into a totally custom one page website, complete with articles, meta tags, custom images, ect. I think this would avoid the copywright issues you have with custom images. In this scenario a user with custom pages would be hosting their own images, and only the ads would be served by sedo.