LLLL.net COUNTDOWN

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

New Member Disclaimer: Four letter domain names are a relatively new investment category that is only beginning to gain traction in Dotcom. This domaining sector offers potentially larger returns than traditional revenue or traffic based domain names, however with this investment opportunity comes extravagant risk.

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It was only a matter of time... First King Com. Then .CN fell. And now... I present to you LLLL.net

This thread is designed to elicit discussion about LLLL.nets. You're encouraged to post anything you feel is relevant to LLLL.nets in this thread. This includes sales information, new regs, ...

Feb 05, 2008: All quad premium LLLL.nets are registered

Silhouette · Dec 6, 2007

skylineleong said:
uuua.net. It's a premium domain .nets?

Of course it is.

(at least to me)

hehe
peace

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

skylineleong said:
I have uuua.net. It's a premium domain .nets?

How the
CVCC.nets, 3 same characters.
CVCV.nets,
CVVC.nets,
CVVV.nets,
CCCV.nets, 3 same characters.

Any value above domain .nets?

CVCV - definitely.

I haven't really researched the other markets yet.. Maybe someone can provide a more detailed answer to your question. Many CVVC still left, as well as CVVV and CCCV.

BLazeD · Dec 6, 2007

How many threads like this are going to pop up at NamePros?

We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing"

You are creating your own hype.

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

Hardly. Refer to the first post for stats on how many are registered. IMHO, premium LLLL.nets are at least as good an investment as premium LLLLL.coms...

Compare the prices on LL.net versus LLL.com
LLL.net versus LLLL.com
LLLL.net versus LLLLL.com?

It's a perfectly legitimate investment imho and the sales listed earlier show that there certainly is interest in high quality LLLL.nets.

Anyway, the list is now up for letters D-F.

BlazeD, perhaps you should see the link in my sig about having a subforum exclusively for stuff like this.

edit: As for Dubai, Abu Dhabi (is that how you spell it?) and all that.. While I haven't invested in them (I missed the boat big time on good names there), I really recommend reading up on it on Wikipedia. Absolutely fascinating some of the future and current developments going on there :imho:

BLazeD said:
How many threads like this are going to pop up at NamePros?

We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing"

You are creating your own hype.

Spade · Dec 6, 2007

Im going to go ahead and play the devils advocate in this discussion. I think investing in LLLL.net's is dangerous at best. The difference between .com and .net is the same different that continues to put .net pricing at roughly 1/10th of that of .com.

I think we all need review as to why LLLL.com's had become so popular. With companies being created daily, and no generics .com's available - they were often forced to use acronyms for their web presence. Domainers recognized the value in these short domains years ago when LLL.com's were gobbled up. Considering that represents roughly 17,000 domain names - it was simply a matter of time before LLLL.com's filled that need.

Now with 400,000 ish LLLL.com's companies have quite a bit of options, and can typically find one with a reasonable price... How many companies do you know that would be happy with an LLLL.net?

All of you must put yourself in the position of the company your hoping to sell to (end-user).... Would you buy it?

Justin

BLazeD · Dec 6, 2007

Sorry in saying "We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing" I meant those threads are all hyped up too and I don't agree with them.

xman · Dec 6, 2007

Here are other sales for LLLL.net

BuyDomains
hara $3,088 - 01/17/07
beco $2,980 - 01/17/07
xpsl $1,605 - 01/24/07
wlnp $1,888 - 01/04/07

Sedo:
caia $544 - 12/03/07
nima $900 - 11/14/07
rapn $150 - 10/29/07
casy $210 - 10/08/07
aaah $200 - 04/14/07
dnam $861 - 04/11/07
nics $500 - 03/31/07
okya - $200 - 03/25/07
zash - $466 - 03/15/07
quex - $399 - 02/09/07
miru - $665 - 01/11/07

TDNam
hwav $369 09/29/07
xqzy $449 09/26/07

Snap
walt - $825 01/24/07

VURG · Dec 6, 2007

Reece said:
These are being scanned in Godaddy using the bulk registration tool. It's somewhat time consuming, however, I feel it yields some of the best results in terms of time versus accuracy. If anyone has a better solution for the job, please send me a pm or post it here.

Reece, do you sleep at night? Sounds like a huge job!

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

There is around ~50% LLLL.net registered. For the LLLL.com, there was around 50% LLLL.com bought out in 2002. This was a 5 year gap between the buyout and the halfway mark. From my understanding, there is a trend that the rate of internet expansion is slowing down and so I wouldn't be suprised if it takes longer than 5 years for these domains to run out.

The CCC.net were bought out early due to RegisterFly discounting and there has been over a year of drops where it is only now starting to attract interest. A lot of people lost a lot of money with the CCC.net by buying too early. The CCC.info has the same negative stories. (That is why I disagree with discounting for the first year for domains as domainers lose money by buying domains before their time.)

The LLLL.com buyout journey has many successes but also many tragic stories of people losing thousands of dollars by buying too early. I expect a LLLL.net buyout to have more failures. You got to be careful with this one.

There are some gems in the rough. As a rule of thumb, I would say that if the LLLL.com is worth less than $400 than the LLLL.net is a risk.

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

Thanks for stopping by VURG

I agree with your analysis 100%. I think some people (not you) misconstrued my intentions here... I'm recommending people hunt through my list for premiums (easy to find by doing Ctrl + H [Replace] and changing every bad letter to nothing, then scan through Godaddy [all LLL.net being regged, of course, leaving only quad premium LLLL.nets]).

Names like ESLR.net may be worth the risk imho, while ZQVJ.net (I said it again!) isn't. Once I get through the entire list, I'm sure there'll be several hundred, maybe even a few thousand worthy of being regged imho.

VURG said:
Reece, do you sleep at night? Sounds like a huge job!

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

There is around ~50% LLLL.net registered. For the LLLL.com, there was around 50% LLLL.com bought out in 2002. This was a 5 year gap between the buyout and the halfway mark. From my understanding, there is a trend that the rate of internet expansion is slowing down and so I wouldn't be suprised if it takes longer than 5 years for these domains to run out.

The CCC.net were bought out early due to RegisterFly discounting and there has been over a year of drops where it is only now starting to attract interest. A lot of people lost a lot of money with the CCC.net by buying too early. The CCC.info has the same negative stories. (That is why I disagree with discounting for the first year for domains as domainers lose money by buying domains before their time.)

The LLLL.com buyout journey has many successes but also many tragic stories of people losing thousands of dollars by buying too early. I expect a LLLL.net buyout to have more failures. You got to be careful with this one.

There are some gems in the rough. As a rule of thumb, I would say that if the LLLL.com is worth less than $400 than the LLLL.net is a risk.

xman · Dec 6, 2007

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

Some can foresee the future and started investing early but for me I have to look at my Crystal Ball. If I end buying a couple hundred of these LLLL.net to hold in a couple of years and end up losing money I could always say "I shouldn't have bought that darn Crystal Ball in eBay."

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

BLazeD said:
Sorry in saying "We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing" I meant those threads are all hyped up too and I don't agree with them.

The only 2 seriously hyped investments I ever bought into were LLLL.com and .mobi. LLLL.com has paid off quite nicely.. .mobi looks like it'll likely do the same

This (or any of those threads you've mentioned and not mentioned) certainly aren't the kind of things you go wild on and reg 1600 of...

But regging a few names like DubaiHotel.com DubaiAirport.com, DubaiTravel.com, etc certainly can't hurt -- as long as you don't overdo it. If you were to take all the hyped extensions/ideas pertinent to domaining over the last 3-4 years and allot them an equal amount of money to invest in, you'd actually have done quite well for yourself..

The problem arises when people start trying to predict what will be the next LLL.com, CCC.com, NNNN.com, etc. Same reason we had so many people cry foul with .eu... Invest intelligently - diversify. I would never put all my eggs in a non-.com basket, no matter how sure I was of the investment's potential...

Sameh · Dec 6, 2007

Reece said:
The only 2 seriously hyped investments I ever bought into were LLLL.com and .mobi. LLLL.com has paid off quite nicely.. .mobi looks like it'll likely do the same

This (or any of those threads you've mentioned and not mentioned) certainly aren't the kind of things you go wild on and reg 1600 of...

But regging a few names like DubaiHotel.com DubaiAirport.com, DubaiTravel.com, etc certainly can't hurt -- as long as you don't overdo it. If you were to take all the hyped extensions/ideas pertinent to domaining over the last 3-4 years and allot them an equal amount of money to invest in, you'd actually have done quite well for yourself..

The problem arises when people start trying to predict what will be the next LLL.com, CCC.com, NNNN.com, etc. Same reason we had so many people cry foul with .eu... Invest intelligently - diversify. I wouldn't never put all my eggs in a non-.com basket, no matter how sure I was of the investment's potential...

Okie great. You understand that. but what about,

Reece said:
the amount of new members and new money flowing into domaining everyday

Once they see your thread title "LLLL.net COUNTDOWN" they will just jump into the lists and start loading themselves with non-secure investment.

It have been better if your topic was about Hunting premium LLLL.net which still not 100% secure.

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

Once I have the entire scan done (should be a day or 2), I'll get rid of every name that isn't at least triple premium.

edit: Thinking about that... Maybe a newbie recommend link and an experts only one

Meh.. I'll figure something out.. Some good names have a bad letter or 2, but I agree that newbies regging ZQVJ...

eg.domains said:
Okie great. You understand that. but what about,

Once they see your thread title "LLLL.net COUNTDOWN" they will just jump into the lists and start loading themselves with non-secure investment.

It have been better if your topic was about Hunting premium LLLL.net which still not 100% secure.

Andrei P. · Dec 6, 2007

about premium LLLL.net - only 15% are available as far as I remember.
I saw premium LLLL.coms are offered at prices around 4000$ to end users. Isn't the same LLLL.net for 200$ a good alternative for a small company? I think all LLLL.net will never be sold out, but premium LLLL.net will certainly be! And it will be very soon.

1john2004 · Dec 6, 2007

More LLLL.net sales (tdnam):
FIFI - 520
BOCO-270

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

A disclaimer has been added to the thread:

New Member Disclaimer: Four letter domain names are a relatively new investment category that is only beginning to gain traction in Dotcom. This domaining sector offers potentially larger returns than traditional revenue or traffic based domain names, however with this investment opportunity comes extravagant risk.

Only invest in 4 letter domain names what you can afford to lose.
I do not recommend new domainers invest more than 20% of their total investment in 4 letter .coms or more than 25% collectively between 4 letter .coms and 4 letter domain names in other extensions. Investments in 4 letter extensions other than dotcom should be capped at a maximum of 10% of investable assets.

Dotmainer · Dec 6, 2007

Reece can you please edit your first Post. It make it huge to scroll right / left , up / down.

Thanks.

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-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

Sorry Zoki,

Is it fixed now for you?

zoki said:
Reece can you please edit your first Post. It make it huge to scroll right / left , up / down.

Thanks.

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epasaport · Dec 6, 2007

I cannot download the list

-REECE- · Dec 6, 2007

Hi Epasaport,

Welcome to Namepros!

The easiest way to get the list is to open it, then hit Ctrl + A (select all), Ctrl + C (copy)and then open Notepad and hit Ctrl + V (paste).

epasaport said:
I cannot download the list

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