LLLL.com COUNTDOWN! - Page 5

Lasher · 10-10-2006, 05:01 PM

There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?

WGS_Thunder · 10-10-2006, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lasher

There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?

Check those in a week or so. Most likely all the halfway decent ones will be registered.

Dan · 10-10-2006, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by WGS_Thunder

Check those in a week or so. Most likely all the halfway decent ones will be registered.

.. and then another couple thousand will be dropped.

WGS_Thunder · 10-10-2006, 06:42 PM

Believe what you want. Here is a chart from lt96.com about llll.coms
Date Up Or Down Percentage Estimate Unregistered
1st May 2006 Down 18.7% 85650
8th May 2006 Down 18.5% 84560
15th May 2006 Down 17.9% 81710
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/161235-llll-com-countdown.html
22nd May 2006 Down 17.4% 79742
29th May 2006 Down 16.6% 75869
5th June 2006 Up 17.6% 80301
12th June 2006 Up 18.0% 82397
21st June 2006 Down 17.5% 80041
29th June 2006 Down 14.8% 67648
3rd July 2006 **Up 17.8% 81377
10th July 2006 Down 16.7% 76221
18th July 2006 Down 13.4% 61435
24th July 2006 Up 14.5% 66290
1st August 2006 Down 12.9% 58794
7th August 2006 Up 13.6% 61963
16th August 2006 Up 13.9% 63379
21st August 2006 Down 13.5% 61838
28th August 2006 Up 13.7% 62833
4th Sept 2006 Down 13.2% 60487
11th Sept 2006 Down 12.3% 56418
19th Sept 2006 Up 13.1% 60208
25th Sept 2006 Down 13.0% 59407
2nd Oct 2006 Down 11.8% 54120

Lasher · 10-10-2006, 07:06 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in quality LLLL.com domains, own a couple of hundred myself.

The question I was addressing was the date on which they're all registered, and my answer remains "never"

VURG · 10-10-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lasher

There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?

There was an option for after 2007. This would include never and has already been taken. I can't afford to monitor the domains forever and so after 2007 was the last option.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235

Once all the possible guesses have been made, I'll transfer the list of guesses to this thread but will leave the competition thread seperate until then.

jagusa · 01-15-2007, 04:30 PM

As of January 2007...
Via casual observation, I tend to notice around 10 dropped premium LLLL.coms per day. These are quickly regged. Average total daily dropped around 1250. Do these observations jibe with the real numbers? I haven't been doing any tracking scans.

Travis · 01-15-2007, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by jagusa

As of January 2007...
Via casual observation, I tend to notice around 10 dropped premium LLLL.coms per day. These are quickly regged. Average total daily dropped around 1250. Do these observations jibe with the real numbers? I haven't been doing any tracking scans.

Only around 100 drop every day, no clue where you got your numbers. See here
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=74457398

jagusa · 01-15-2007, 04:40 PM

Didn't see any numbers in your private myspace profile. You're probably right though. If 1250 dropped everyday, that'd be 0.2% of the total LLLL.com population per day. An order of magnitude lower might make more sense. Any other thoughts... how many premium LLLL.coms are you noticing drop daily?

tzsxc · 01-15-2007, 07:27 PM

The real question is how many premium are dropping so that they can be picked up at reg-fee. And that is almost zero.

3par · 01-15-2007, 08:10 PM

How is the 4 letter dot com drop compared to other types? For a typical month, dot com drop ratio is about 1.3%; while for the last quarter, 4 letter dot com has a drop ratio of 0.8%, which is well below the normal ratio.

And majority of the dropped 4 letter dot com are picked up. The table below shows that 80% to 90% of the dropped 4 letter domains will be picked up.

Total drop || Available after 6 month or 1/10/06 || Percent dropped
Jun-06 3103 171 6
Jul-06 3146 238 8
Aug-06 3090 295 10
Sep-06 7133 314 4
Oct-06 4000 599 15
Nov-06 2325 290 12
Dec-06 2873 641 22
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235

BTW, can anybody tell me how to publish an excel spread sheet into html table, without the style information.

Travis · 01-15-2007, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by jagusa

Didn't see any numbers in your private myspace profile. You're probably right though. If 1250 dropped everyday, that'd be 0.2% of the total LLLL.com population per day. An order of magnitude lower might make more sense. Any other thoughts... how many premium LLLL.coms are you noticing drop daily?

Whoa! That was an accident, I meant to post http://dyyo.com. I thought it was still copied, aparently I copied my friends my space url soon after.

cache · 01-15-2007, 10:30 PM

what is the precise definition of "premium " and "halfway decent"?

Travis · 01-16-2007, 12:24 AM

Premium IMO are domains such as Sedo, Hybu(Fonzie's), Buzz, Digg, etc.

jagusa · 01-16-2007, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by cache

what is the precise definition of "premium " and "halfway decent"?

Good question. A precise definition may let us say whether the complete premium supply has been extinguished. I consider all dictionary words and CVCV to be premiums. Also, naturally pronounceable without Q, X, Z, (Y?)*.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235

* personally, I like LLLYs.

accent · 01-16-2007, 02:30 AM

All LLLL.coms that do not include J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z have been bought up for two years. I would include them as premium, along with dictionary and true pronouncable (which also have been gone at least that long).

ezimedia · 01-16-2007, 10:48 AM

Hi All

Now is the time to grab.. any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them for reg fee if you can get them, I am paying $20+ for any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them on TDnam.com,

I am working on the idea of getting them for $20 and holding them for 1 year and then off loading them for double or triple what I paid for them.

I think a lot of people will be doing this...

But the really goal should be to hold them for the next 5 years.... i guess you would get 100x back your investment.

Do you have any comments...

Thanks
Tom Dahne

floatingworld · 01-16-2007, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by ezimedia

Hi All

But the really goal should be to hold them for the next 5 years.... i guess you would get 100x back your investment.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235

Do you have any comments...

Thanks
Tom Dahne

well 5 years registration @ $8 per year = $40, so with the 100x investment implied would give us $4k per domain....or 100 * original investment would give us $800 per domain. Just assuming we could hedge this financial prediction I think I would hedge against for sure....

cache · 01-17-2007, 12:24 AM

actually 20+4*8=52, 100x is $5.2K
can you really sell that much?

Originally Posted by floatingworld

well 5 years registration @ $8 per year = $40, so with the 100x investment implied would give us $4k per domain....or 100 * original investment would give us $800 per domain. Just assuming we could hedge this financial prediction I think I would hedge against for sure....

jagusa · 01-17-2007, 02:24 PM

My guess would be that poor character LLLL.coms would be worth around $40 in the 12 months following complete registration. I think the premium values will not change much. I'm hoping the somewhat okay letter domains (only one less desirable letter or naturally pronounceable) go up to $75ish.

MCDomains · 01-18-2007, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Travis

Premium IMO are domains such as Sedo, Hybu(Fonzie's), Buzz, Digg, etc.

Hmm, I wouldn't put Hybu in the same sentence as Buzz or Digg when it comes to LLLL.com quality. Regardless of development. You can spin tens of thousands of LLLL.com's into pronouncables ... Buzz is an actually word!

tzsxc · 01-18-2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by MCDomains

Hmm, I wouldn't put Hybu in the same sentence as Buzz or Digg when it comes to LLLL.com quality. Regardless of development. You can spin tens of thousands of LLLL.com's into pronouncables ... Buzz is an actually word!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235
well said

3par · 01-18-2007, 10:47 AM

Different people have different opinion of what is premium. If $1m+ domain is premium, only buzz.com qualifies. sedo.com when sold as domain only commanded $35K(?).

But if somebody thinks $50+ is premium, then hybu.com might qualify.

I think $10+ is premiium, so all my domains are premium.

tzsxc · 01-18-2007, 02:43 PM

3par, you're insane!

cache · 01-18-2007, 03:40 PM

are you sure you can find a buyer for your $10+? +

Even so, you are just break even after one year.

Originally Posted by 3par

Different people have different opinion of what is premium. If $1m+ domain is premium, only buzz.com qualifies. sedo.com when sold as domain only commanded $35K(?).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235

But if somebody thinks $50+ is premium, then hybu.com might qualify.

I think $10+ is premiium, so all my domains are premium.

10-10-2006, 06:42 PM	#104 (permalink)
WGS_Thunder certified domainiac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PcGamersWorld Posts: 1,455	Believe what you want. Here is a chart from lt96.com about llll.coms Date Up Or Down Percentage Estimate Unregistered 1st May 2006 Down 18.7% 85650 8th May 2006 Down 18.5% 84560 15th May 2006 Down 17.9% 81710 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/161235-llll-com-countdown.html 22nd May 2006 Down 17.4% 79742 29th May 2006 Down 16.6% 75869 5th June 2006 Up 17.6% 80301 12th June 2006 Up 18.0% 82397 21st June 2006 Down 17.5% 80041 29th June 2006 Down 14.8% 67648 3rd July 2006 **Up 17.8% 81377 10th July 2006 Down 16.7% 76221 18th July 2006 Down 13.4% 61435 24th July 2006 Up 14.5% 66290 1st August 2006 Down 12.9% 58794 7th August 2006 Up 13.6% 61963 16th August 2006 Up 13.9% 63379 21st August 2006 Down 13.5% 61838 28th August 2006 Up 13.7% 62833 4th Sept 2006 Down 13.2% 60487 11th Sept 2006 Down 12.3% 56418 19th Sept 2006 Up 13.1% 60208 25th Sept 2006 Down 13.0% 59407 2nd Oct 2006 Down 11.8% 54120 __________________ PC Gamers World PC Gamers World PC Gamers advocates, all about PC gaming

01-15-2007, 10:30 PM	#113 (permalink)
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01-16-2007, 02:30 AM	#116 (permalink)
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01-16-2007, 10:48 AM	#117 (permalink)
ezimedia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: IllawarraClassifieds.com.au Posts: 2,361 Follow @ezimedia	Hi All Now is the time to grab.. any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them for reg fee if you can get them, I am paying $20+ for any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them on TDnam.com, I am working on the idea of getting them for $20 and holding them for 1 year and then off loading them for double or triple what I paid for them. I think a lot of people will be doing this... But the really goal should be to hold them for the next 5 years.... i guess you would get 100x back your investment. Do you have any comments... Thanks Tom Dahne __________________ My Domains @ Bido.com - Take a LOOK and Vote Or Bid Free Directory Submitter - More Free Seo Tools - Free Forum Poster Software

10-10-2006, 05:01 PM	#101 (permalink)
Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,223	There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?

10-10-2006, 07:06 PM	#105 (permalink)
Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,223	Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in quality LLLL.com domains, own a couple of hundred myself. The question I was addressing was the date on which they're all registered, and my answer remains "never"

01-15-2007, 04:30 PM	#107 (permalink)
jagusa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,272	As of January 2007... Via casual observation, I tend to notice around 10 dropped premium LLLL.coms per day. These are quickly regged. Average total daily dropped around 1250. Do these observations jibe with the real numbers? I haven't been doing any tracking scans.

01-15-2007, 04:40 PM	#109 (permalink)
jagusa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,272	Didn't see any numbers in your private myspace profile. You're probably right though. If 1250 dropped everyday, that'd be 0.2% of the total LLLL.com population per day. An order of magnitude lower might make more sense. Any other thoughts... how many premium LLLL.coms are you noticing drop daily?

01-15-2007, 07:27 PM	#110 (permalink)
tzsxc NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 506	The real question is how many premium are dropping so that they can be picked up at reg-fee. And that is almost zero.

01-15-2007, 08:10 PM	#111 (permalink)
3par Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 551	How is the 4 letter dot com drop compared to other types? For a typical month, dot com drop ratio is about 1.3%; while for the last quarter, 4 letter dot com has a drop ratio of 0.8%, which is well below the normal ratio. And majority of the dropped 4 letter dot com are picked up. The table below shows that 80% to 90% of the dropped 4 letter domains will be picked up. Total drop \|\| Available after 6 month or 1/10/06 \|\| Percent dropped Jun-06 3103 171 6 Jul-06 3146 238 8 Aug-06 3090 295 10 Sep-06 7133 314 4 Oct-06 4000 599 15 Nov-06 2325 290 12 Dec-06 2873 641 22 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=161235 BTW, can anybody tell me how to publish an excel spread sheet into html table, without the style information.

01-17-2007, 02:24 PM	#120 (permalink)
jagusa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,272	My guess would be that poor character LLLL.coms would be worth around $40 in the 12 months following complete registration. I think the premium values will not change much. I'm hoping the somewhat okay letter domains (only one less desirable letter or naturally pronounceable) go up to $75ish.

01-18-2007, 10:47 AM	#123 (permalink)
3par Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 551	Different people have different opinion of what is premium. If $1m+ domain is premium, only buzz.com qualifies. sedo.com when sold as domain only commanded $35K(?). But if somebody thinks $50+ is premium, then hybu.com might qualify. I think $10+ is premiium, so all my domains are premium. Last edited by 3par; 01-18-2007 at 02:45 PM.

01-18-2007, 02:43 PM	#124 (permalink)
tzsxc NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 506	3par, you're insane!

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