19% Remaining!!

floatingworld · 03-27-2006, 12:23 PM

if it is thought that the point has been reached that any 4L.com achieves at least reg fee, then it is a 1-way bet and the rest will be progressively hoovered up, particularly if the current godaddy loophole is used.

edwinfelix · 03-27-2006, 01:10 PM

Every day more LLLL.com are being registered. Right now garbage LLLL domains are $5, a relatively decent one's ~$10, and the price is steadily rising. :-)

Malaysia · 03-27-2006, 01:13 PM

yeah i did not take into account those that have drop.. about 50 are dropped daily as i can see.. but the list of 60k was scanned in one night ... so its the unregged remaind of taht day itself..

VURG · 03-31-2006, 07:26 AM

19% REMAINING

I checked today and 19% of the 4 letter domains are remaining. That's a drop of 5% in three months. (~23000) I have also noticed that my domains are selling faster now. I think that there has been a big shift in opinions of 4 letter domains in the past month.

I checked back on previous comments and I think there was around 33% remaining 10 months ago.

NEXT UPDATE AT 16% REMAINING!

Malaysia · 03-31-2006, 07:38 AM

where did u check?
i check there is only 13% remaining

floatingworld · 03-31-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by edwinfelix

Every day more LLLL.com are being registered. Right now garbage LLLL domains are $5, a relatively decent one's ~$10, and the price is steadily rising. :-)

the garbage needs to clear $10 per name before there is a total mop up or there is a 3 month consistent rise in the minimum price reached to spark off a final feeding frenzy which might even be suddenly executed overnight.

VURG · 03-31-2006, 01:49 PM

I generated a random list of 2595 domains and I used a bulk search tool to find how many were available. Attached is the random list of domains that I checked for availability and the list of domains that were available.

There were 494 which came up available. If there was 13% remaining the number available would be around 340.

Malaysia, why don't you check if there are any in the list of the 494 that are not on your list and also check their availability. If I'm right there should be more than 100.

MCDomains · 04-07-2006, 09:42 AM

I have 18.7% remaining LLLL.com's from my large random pool scans.

Over the last few weeks I have them disappearing @ a rate of 0.06% a day.

fonzie_007 · 04-07-2006, 09:44 AM

I assume then that more are being regged than dropping?

MCDomains · 04-07-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by fonzie_007

I assume then that more are being regged than dropping?

Exactly.

The percentage rate of disappearing LLLL.com's takes into account the drops.

edwinfelix · 04-07-2006, 10:32 AM

I scanned the all premium letter LLLL.com's yesterday, none is left.

Good news for LLLL.com holders.

fonzie_007 · 04-07-2006, 10:33 AM

FYI: I am trying to post some better LLLL that are dropping/available. See my thread here: http://www.namepros.com/available-do...more-coms.html

primacomputer · 04-07-2006, 11:13 AM

Doing a completely un-random scan of the all 456,976 possibilities in the com zone file I find 358,658 active LLLL names. This means there are about 98,318 that are either unregistered, pending delete, etc. No doubt there are also a handful of names that are active but simply don't have name servers.

I did the same tally about a year ago and there were about 140,000 that were not active. I would love to jump up and down and celebrate how this is proof that my crap 4Ls are sky-rocketing in value. Unfortunately I realise that the one reason there are less available is because so many registrars are drop squatting for so much longer. At any rate, even if we do remove 40,000 names from the pool every year we are still two years away from seeing them all gone.

But don't let that get you down. 4Ls are not this years random 3Cs. We don't need to wait for domainers to snap them all up to obtain value through some perverted definition of scarcity. 4Ls have real world end user potential. 4Ls are selling for $500+ every day. 4Ls composed entirely of “bad” letters are selling as well.

My advice is to stop worrying so much about when you'll be able to flog a name for $50 to another domainer and concentrate selling them to end users for ten time that right now.

XDuncan · 04-07-2006, 03:03 PM

Starting in ascending order, first 5K LLLL.com's are taken.

cache · 04-07-2006, 03:52 PM

the fewer llll left the more likely some people would want to reg them so that they don't miss the gold, this will accelerate the countdown.

floatingworld · 04-08-2006, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by ilcesco

http://www.avuw.com/llll_com.asp

Have fun

now not so easy to find a name without u,k,x.y,z,j,w, in it

VURG · 06-28-2006, 07:37 PM

I checked today and found less than 16% remaining. Todays estimate was approximately 68000. This is a big drop since last week as last weeks estimate of 80000. In the last 6 months that I have been monitoring the number of unregistered domain, there has been an approximate drop of 40000.

View 6 months monitoring

I'll update this thread when I see a drop below the 13% remaining barrier.

I've attached a graph showing the monitoring.

3par · 06-28-2006, 09:23 PM

Current standing should be around 78k. What you see are the temperory dip caused by big 4 testing traffic:

today's outstanding:
belgium domain: 3684
capitoldomains: 2263
domaindoorman: 1817
nameking: 488

During 0623 and 0627, almost all 4 letter started with a/b/c/d are all gone!
number starting
198 a
344 b
280 c
333 d

VURG · 06-28-2006, 09:54 PM

I think I'm getting used to these fluctuations due to traffic testing. Personally, I think it's a waste of time with the remaining LLLL.com domains. Thanks for the info!

accent · 06-29-2006, 12:02 AM

There certainly is a change of tone in this thread from the posts six months ago. Perhaps the nay sayers have had their say and moved on, perhaps there has been a general change of opinion. Comments?

I do want to answer the post from back then that recommended investors buy one $3,000 .com instead of regging 100 LLLL.com for 3 -4 years. The answer, for me, is that I simply do not have the knowledge to choose a true quality .com in that range and know that I have bought it at a good price. And that is with over a year of serious study of this market. Perhaps I could, with some effort, get a three letter .com in that price range, but then I would basically be in the same market.

This reflects one of the strongest advantages to the LLLL.com, CCC.com and net and LLL.gtld domains - they are shallow water for those new to the field. They will continue to be so and if there is a large influx of new investors, something that just might happen, then the short domain field is likely to be very popular for this reason.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/161235-llll-com-countdown.html

I have seen several posts on forums from people wondering if it is time to buy out the LLLL.coms. The assumption is that they had the money. It would be a half million dollar investment per year, a small move for a lot of people, and one with fairly good odds of paying off. Those who post their plans in forums are likely not going to do it, but one morning soon we just might find them all gone.

VURG · 07-31-2006, 04:53 PM

My estimate for today was 12.9% remaining and this is the first time that the 13% barrier has been crossed since I started checking. I checked against DYYO.com which had 13.6% and so my estimates are relatively close to 3par. While there has been a lot of traffic testing in recent weeks, the numbers have been consistently below 16% for quite a while now.

Thanks 3par for a brilliant resource for 4 letter domain statistics with dyyo.com.

GreenGambler · 07-31-2006, 08:06 PM

Well one thing is for sure, more are being registered than dropped.

I jumped in and reg'd 20 or so, most all pronouncable. I think it's a good investment and a safe bet with expectations of holding the names for a year or three.

sin · 07-31-2006, 10:31 PM

So, everyone has different (%)s of whats remaining, what do you think they will be worth when 1% exists?

floatingworld · 08-01-2006, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

I do want to answer the post from back then that recommended investors buy one $3,000 .com instead of regging 100 LLLL.com for 3 -4 years.

dabbling with the 100 4Ls will give you more fun.......

fleshas · 08-01-2006, 11:53 PM

me love LLLL.com .. But i much more love LLL.com

))

03-27-2006, 01:13 PM	#53 (permalink)
Malaysia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,278	yeah i did not take into account those that have drop.. about 50 are dropped daily as i can see.. but the list of 60k was scanned in one night ... so its the unregged remaind of taht day itself.. __________________ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ██████Work Smart Play Hard! ████

03-31-2006, 07:26 AM	THREAD STARTER #54 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	19% Remaining!! 19% REMAINING I checked today and 19% of the 4 letter domains are remaining. That's a drop of 5% in three months. (~23000) I have also noticed that my domains are selling faster now. I think that there has been a big shift in opinions of 4 letter domains in the past month. I checked back on previous comments and I think there was around 33% remaining 10 months ago. NEXT UPDATE AT 16% REMAINING!

03-31-2006, 07:38 AM	#55 (permalink)
Malaysia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,278	where did u check? i check there is only 13% remaining __________________ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ██████Work Smart Play Hard! ████

04-07-2006, 09:42 AM	#58 (permalink)
MCDomains DomainSeeking.com Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,447 Follow @AdvoCareMatt	Did You Know? I have 18.7% remaining LLLL.com's from my large random pool scans. Over the last few weeks I have them disappearing @ a rate of 0.06% a day. __________________ Erin Burnett CNN \| Free Images Royalty Free Be Your OWN Boss - AdvoCare Angie Harmon Pics

04-07-2006, 09:44 AM	#59 (permalink)
fonzie_007 NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: LLL.us City Posts: 6,358	I assume then that more are being regged than dropping? __________________ Feeling achy? · ACL Injury Information · Indian Recipes

19% Remaining!!

Did You Know?

16% Remaining

13% Remaining

03-27-2006, 12:23 PM	#51 (permalink)
floatingworld dawnofthefloatingworld Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: nightlesscity Posts: 3,413	if it is thought that the point has been reached that any 4L.com achieves at least reg fee, then it is a 1-way bet and the rest will be progressively hoovered up, particularly if the current godaddy loophole is used.

03-27-2006, 01:10 PM	#52 (permalink)
edwinfelix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 749	Every day more LLLL.com are being registered. Right now garbage LLLL domains are $5, a relatively decent one's ~$10, and the price is steadily rising. :-)

04-07-2006, 10:32 AM	#61 (permalink)
edwinfelix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 749	I scanned the all premium letter LLLL.com's yesterday, none is left. Good news for LLLL.com holders.

04-07-2006, 10:33 AM	#62 (permalink)
fonzie_007 NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: LLL.us City Posts: 6,358	FYI: I am trying to post some better LLLL that are dropping/available. See my thread here: http://www.namepros.com/available-do...more-coms.html __________________ Feeling achy? · ACL Injury Information · Indian Recipes

04-07-2006, 11:13 AM	#63 (permalink)
primacomputer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,402	Doing a completely un-random scan of the all 456,976 possibilities in the com zone file I find 358,658 active LLLL names. This means there are about 98,318 that are either unregistered, pending delete, etc. No doubt there are also a handful of names that are active but simply don't have name servers. I did the same tally about a year ago and there were about 140,000 that were not active. I would love to jump up and down and celebrate how this is proof that my crap 4Ls are sky-rocketing in value. Unfortunately I realise that the one reason there are less available is because so many registrars are drop squatting for so much longer. At any rate, even if we do remove 40,000 names from the pool every year we are still two years away from seeing them all gone. But don't let that get you down. 4Ls are not this years random 3Cs. We don't need to wait for domainers to snap them all up to obtain value through some perverted definition of scarcity. 4Ls have real world end user potential. 4Ls are selling for $500+ every day. 4Ls composed entirely of “bad” letters are selling as well. My advice is to stop worrying so much about when you'll be able to flog a name for $50 to another domainer and concentrate selling them to end users for ten time that right now.

04-07-2006, 03:03 PM	#64 (permalink)
XDuncan NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 570	Starting in ascending order, first 5K LLLL.com's are taken. __________________ SurfingForum.com, SkateboardForum.com, WakeboardForum.com

04-07-2006, 03:52 PM	#65 (permalink)
cache Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Goblin Wars Zone & California Posts: 4,451	the fewer llll left the more likely some people would want to reg them so that they don't miss the gold, this will accelerate the countdown. __________________ LaFrance Hods Raids Trik OXSI GoblinWars IQx yPortal Idel enlo Kitu Hytu Albums eMontage Cereal Tarf MDTalks Toch TV vald hosy Bagr Glem wolk corg ypen DiTV

06-28-2006, 09:23 PM	#68 (permalink)
3par Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 551	Current standing should be around 78k. What you see are the temperory dip caused by big 4 testing traffic: today's outstanding: belgium domain: 3684 capitoldomains: 2263 domaindoorman: 1817 nameking: 488 During 0623 and 0627, almost all 4 letter started with a/b/c/d are all gone! number starting 198 a 344 b 280 c 333 d

06-28-2006, 09:54 PM	THREAD STARTER #69 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	I think I'm getting used to these fluctuations due to traffic testing. Personally, I think it's a waste of time with the remaining LLLL.com domains. Thanks for the info!

06-29-2006, 12:02 AM	#70 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,295	There certainly is a change of tone in this thread from the posts six months ago. Perhaps the nay sayers have had their say and moved on, perhaps there has been a general change of opinion. Comments? I do want to answer the post from back then that recommended investors buy one $3,000 .com instead of regging 100 LLLL.com for 3 -4 years. The answer, for me, is that I simply do not have the knowledge to choose a true quality .com in that range and know that I have bought it at a good price. And that is with over a year of serious study of this market. Perhaps I could, with some effort, get a three letter .com in that price range, but then I would basically be in the same market. This reflects one of the strongest advantages to the LLLL.com, CCC.com and net and LLL.gtld domains - they are shallow water for those new to the field. They will continue to be so and if there is a large influx of new investors, something that just might happen, then the short domain field is likely to be very popular for this reason. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/161235-llll-com-countdown.html I have seen several posts on forums from people wondering if it is time to buy out the LLLL.coms. The assumption is that they had the money. It would be a half million dollar investment per year, a small move for a lot of people, and one with fairly good odds of paying off. Those who post their plans in forums are likely not going to do it, but one morning soon we just might find them all gone. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

07-31-2006, 04:53 PM	THREAD STARTER #71 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	13% Remaining My estimate for today was 12.9% remaining and this is the first time that the 13% barrier has been crossed since I started checking. I checked against DYYO.com which had 13.6% and so my estimates are relatively close to 3par. While there has been a lot of traffic testing in recent weeks, the numbers have been consistently below 16% for quite a while now. Thanks 3par for a brilliant resource for 4 letter domain statistics with dyyo.com. Last edited by VURG; 07-31-2006 at 08:22 PM.

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