SEDO or NAMEDRIVE ????? - Page 3

domainsdepot · 12-02-2005, 01:19 PM

question... once you park the domains, how can you drive traffic to them? thanks in advanced

SpongyBob · 12-03-2005, 04:30 AM

Haven't tried Sedo yet, but I haven't been blown away NameDrives PPC up to now, alot of 0.04 clicks, and only 0.14 for some poker clicks - I think they need to improve their poker customers, most seem like two bit sites, judging my the domain names - although I haven't clicked to look - don't want to risk any click fraud accusations.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/142715-sedo-or-namedrive.html

I can say the NameDrive site is great though, fast, nice to use and fast. But it's the bucks that count, of course.

Originally Posted by domainsdepot

question... once you park the domains, how can you drive traffic to them? thanks in advanced

Tricky one, because if you've got nothing but a page of links on your site, you haven't got any content, and search engines like google naturally don't like sites with no content.

sibaong · 12-03-2005, 11:14 PM

I use ND to park my domain (low $/click keyword), but I still love SEDO coz some of my domain got €2.10/click

NameDriver · 12-09-2005, 06:47 AM

Hi there,

This is my first post on NP. I was referred here by Faisj who said that quality of the forum and its members is higher here than anywhere else, so I thought I'd have a look. This seems to be the most sensible place to start.

My name is Ed Russell. I'm President of NameDrive (among other less glamourous things). We are still a small company (6 employees) but rapidly-growing since launch in September. We syndicate Google ads on our parked pages.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715

It seems there are a lot of happy people on here as far as revenue goes, but just to clear some things up:

- We display revenue exactly as it is given to us by Google (less our very small share). If your domain gets a $5 click, you see that in your account. Unfortunately, this has the downside that, as we don't ever subsidize clicks, you can get lower clicks in some cases.

- As we show real earning statistics, there is a 36-48 hour delay in revenue reporting from when the click was made to when we display the actual value. Until the clicks have been updated, we display a generic click value ($0.11 US, $0.10 Europe, $0.03 Asia etc). We have chosen these conservatively so that the earnings will hopefully always go up after the update.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715

- We are constantly changing and aiming to improve. From launch in September to now, the system has changed so much that it is barely recognisable. This is the fastest-moving industry in the world and we want to reflect that.

- The fact is that no parking company is best for all domains for all people. Sadly. Even between companies such as DS, Sedo and ourselves who all have Google feeds, the results can vary wildly. The best strategy is to test, compare, move on. Leave your domains where they do best. That's how you make most money. Never tie yourself down to one program. We have seen results that go from extreme cases where we are forty times better than another PPC company! Though this is sadly not the norm and some people will naturally earn less but even people who are not 'fans' of us secretly leave some names which do better with us where they are!

- Sales. Parking with us doesn't mean you can't sell your domains with us. If you set your domain 'for sale' in your account, a link appears on your domain through which people can make an offer on your domain - with no commission charged. Not only that, but you can even have a custom link that goes directly to your own sales page. Have a look at www.boxedset.co.uk. The link goes to the owner's own sales page for that exact domain. Email or PM me if you'd like to set it up. Listing domains for sale on Sedo makes 100% sesne as it is the world's #1 domain market place - even I do. But parking them elsewhere doesn't necessarily lower your chances of selling as most offers come via your parked pages anyway. Always make sure you use an Escrow agent though, such as escrow.com or Sedo.

Some points from this thread:

Quote:

namedrive IMO will bust. If the owner is late paying people on the 2nd month of payments.... how far do you really think it will go

True, we were 5 days late on our first two months' payments. Even Domain Sponsor have only been paying 'on time for 2 years'. What about their first year? Our next Payout date is next Thursday and we're on track to get everything done on time. A parking company's cash flow is not optimum - having to keep customers happy while waiting on payments from the Goog, but we've sorted out our early teething problems.

More traffic than other programs:
We only count uniques, but uniques are counted differently everywhere you go. Sedo is known for being to the conservative side of the middle, we are somewhere in the middle. We don't do SEO - no parking company is allowed to, but probably have the advantage of being smaller than Sedo and somewhat under Google's radar. The drop off in traffic probably has something to do with newly-parked names appearing higher up in Google and then dropping off.
We absolutely show uniques and not hits.

Quote:

question... once you park the domains, how can you drive traffic to them? thanks in advanced

No thank you. Traffic should not be driven to parked sites. Parked sites should have inherent type-in or existing search engine traffic. We do not encourage our users to fabricate, drive or manipulate traffic in any way. If you have any questions about what is and what isn't allowed - though I think this is quite clear - feel free to PM or email me.

So, summing up. Much as I would love to, I cannot claim that we will earn you massive amounts more than any other parking company, but I can almost guarantee you that a percentage of your domains will do better with us than elsewhere, just as a percentage of your domains will most likely do worse with us than elsewhere. We can only hope that he first percentage is bigger than the second

You can contact me by email at ed@namedrive.com or PM if you have any specific questions or comments.

I've tried to keep this informative rather than promotional as I don't like to blow our own trumpet. We're happy to let satisfied people do that for us

I'm sure there are also non-promotion rules and I've read over my post to check it's OK.

If you ever have any questions, you can always contact me directly. I have 5 or 6 forums to check up on, so if you post on here, I may take a while to get back, but I always will evenutally.

I look forward to hearing from you and working with you.

Ed

Sorry for the length of the post. Tried to sum up 3 months' energy in one post.

diddie · 12-09-2005, 07:09 AM

Welcome to the forum ND ! Yes its really a nice place.

thanks for replying some of our questions. I will contact you to have that link to my sels page on my parked pages. I hope you will develop that part in future, and for exemple a page that shows some recent sales etc ...

tetrapak · 12-09-2005, 07:13 AM

Very nice post Ed,
I like your attitude that you dont want to tell people to stick with ND, if they find Sedo or any other parking system better, its their choice.
I can only tell that i have 50+ domains, and ive earned the same amount of money with ND in a week than with Sedo in a month. Also im getting uniques on those domains that never got any on Sedo, it is probably because of what you wrote
"but probably have the advantage of being smaller than Sedo and somewhat under Google's radar.".
Thanks for your work, and keep it up!

NameDriver · 12-09-2005, 08:08 AM

Thanks for the welcome

The sales side of things - i.e. stepping up to the plate with Afternic / Sedo-style sales is something that a lot of people are asking for but I can categorically state that it's something we will not be doing in the near future. We are a domain monetization company and want to focus first and foremost on getting that aspect right and as good as possible. You may have seen that we've made a couple of sales on DNJournal too and private brokerage is an area that we are involved in - as well as having good contacts to big buyers of traffic domains, so we are certainly a great place if you are looking to sell your domains at revenue multiples of anything from 6-96 months' revenue.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715

I can't deny that it's in our interests for me to say 'test with us and move the non-performers back to Sedo' as without testing, we wouldn't have any users

However, it is also absolutely in your guys' interests to do so to. Diersifying reveune streams was something that was very hot at the Delray Beach event in October and it is a very wise policy.

I will try and keep my posts more concise in future

Ed

diddie · 12-09-2005, 10:27 AM

No keep that like that, its great to read something from actors of that industry.
And good luck in your entreprise, but i think its already on a good way

Chris

edit: i just saw the other thread, lets move on it for future discussion about Namedrive

StrictlyNames · 12-09-2005, 11:21 AM

pm sent to NameDriver.

.X. · 12-10-2005, 08:19 AM

I parked 15 names there that are getting significant traffic and ctr's at SedoPro,The landing pages look nice,I have all my names monetized with top Ovt keywords and the content is right on cue with each DN specific to a 1 click landing page.Will post results in the near future.I like testing parking services.

fonzie_007 · 12-10-2005, 09:44 AM

Thanks for the posts. I will be looking to move some or all of my ~150 domains to ND. I will give it a month or two trial and see how things go. Things at Sedo have been SLOW....

Premium · 12-10-2005, 09:58 AM

Definately give NameDrive a go, you won't regret it. I am getting lots of $0.75 - $2.00 clicks however you shouldn't expect that. Different keywords, different pay.

The optimization is really good, and you get to see what your users are searching for which helps in the optimization a lot!

One thing I hope NameDrive adds is more template styles for better optimization (like Skenzo)..

Cheers

jeet_020 · 01-18-2006, 10:03 PM

Thanks nice information !!!

diddie · 01-19-2006, 12:19 AM

Namedrive pays on time and well, no fees on paypal transfer from them !

mrfike · 01-19-2006, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by diddie

Namedrive pays on time and well, no fees on paypal transfer from them !

True! Just received PayPal pymt for 60+ domains approx. 5 weeks of$84.00.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715
Sedo? Last 3 months,5 domains remaining, about$1.50 total revenue, MAYBE 1/3 the uniques/hits...and clickthru is <1% @sedo, close to 1.5% @NameDrive!

No Contest, long live ND!

smub · 01-20-2006, 02:44 AM

tough question to ask ...

i would'nt really go with SEDO, either Google, or Namedrive

i m satisfied with them ... Sedo doesnot record every single oen of your visits ... i hate that

tetrapak · 01-20-2006, 02:50 AM

After some testing i got to a conclusion, that the only domains that work better at Sedo are casino related. ND is quite poor on these names, giving 0,1-0,2$.

faisj · 01-20-2006, 03:05 AM

Hi buddy,

Again welcome to this happy place = )
Great Post!

kind regards,

Faizal

Originally Posted by NameDriver

Hi there,

This is my first post on NP. I was referred here by Faisj who said that quality of the forum and its members is higher here than anywhere else, so I thought I'd have a look. This seems to be the most sensible place to start.

My name is Ed Russell. I'm President of NameDrive (among other less glamourous things). We are still a small company (6 employees) but rapidly-growing since launch in September. We syndicate Google ads on our parked pages.

It seems there are a lot of happy people on here as far as revenue goes, but just to clear some things up:

- We display revenue exactly as it is given to us by Google (less our very small share). If your domain gets a $5 click, you see that in your account. Unfortunately, this has the downside that, as we don't ever subsidize clicks, you can get lower clicks in some cases.

- As we show real earning statistics, there is a 36-48 hour delay in revenue reporting from when the click was made to when we display the actual value. Until the clicks have been updated, we display a generic click value ($0.11 US, $0.10 Europe, $0.03 Asia etc). We have chosen these conservatively so that the earnings will hopefully always go up after the update.

- We are constantly changing and aiming to improve. From launch in September to now, the system has changed so much that it is barely recognisable. This is the fastest-moving industry in the world and we want to reflect that.

- The fact is that no parking company is best for all domains for all people. Sadly. Even between companies such as DS, Sedo and ourselves who all have Google feeds, the results can vary wildly. The best strategy is to test, compare, move on. Leave your domains where they do best. That's how you make most money. Never tie yourself down to one program. We have seen results that go from extreme cases where we are forty times better than another PPC company! Though this is sadly not the norm and some people will naturally earn less but even people who are not 'fans' of us secretly leave some names which do better with us where they are!

- Sales. Parking with us doesn't mean you can't sell your domains with us. If you set your domain 'for sale' in your account, a link appears on your domain through which people can make an offer on your domain - with no commission charged. Not only that, but you can even have a custom link that goes directly to your own sales page. Have a look at www.boxedset.co.uk. The link goes to the owner's own sales page for that exact domain. Email or PM me if you'd like to set it up. Listing domains for sale on Sedo makes 100% sesne as it is the world's #1 domain market place - even I do. But parking them elsewhere doesn't necessarily lower your chances of selling as most offers come via your parked pages anyway. Always make sure you use an Escrow agent though, such as escrow.com or Sedo.

Some points from this thread:

True, we were 5 days late on our first two months' payments. Even Domain Sponsor have only been paying 'on time for 2 years'. What about their first year? Our next Payout date is next Thursday and we're on track to get everything done on time. A parking company's cash flow is not optimum - having to keep customers happy while waiting on payments from the Goog, but we've sorted out our early teething problems.

More traffic than other programs:
We only count uniques, but uniques are counted differently everywhere you go. Sedo is known for being to the conservative side of the middle, we are somewhere in the middle. We don't do SEO - no parking company is allowed to, but probably have the advantage of being smaller than Sedo and somewhat under Google's radar. The drop off in traffic probably has something to do with newly-parked names appearing higher up in Google and then dropping off.
We absolutely show uniques and not hits.

No thank you. Traffic should not be driven to parked sites. Parked sites should have inherent type-in or existing search engine traffic. We do not encourage our users to fabricate, drive or manipulate traffic in any way. If you have any questions about what is and what isn't allowed - though I think this is quite clear - feel free to PM or email me.

So, summing up. Much as I would love to, I cannot claim that we will earn you massive amounts more than any other parking company, but I can almost guarantee you that a percentage of your domains will do better with us than elsewhere, just as a percentage of your domains will most likely do worse with us than elsewhere. We can only hope that he first percentage is bigger than the second

You can contact me by email at ed@namedrive.com or PM if you have any specific questions or comments.

I've tried to keep this informative rather than promotional as I don't like to blow our own trumpet. We're happy to let satisfied people do that for us

I'm sure there are also non-promotion rules and I've read over my post to check it's OK.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715

If you ever have any questions, you can always contact me directly. I have 5 or 6 forums to check up on, so if you post on here, I may take a while to get back, but I always will evenutally.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715

I look forward to hearing from you and working with you.

Ed

Sorry for the length of the post. Tried to sum up 3 months' energy in one post.

fonzie_007 · 01-20-2006, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by tetrapak

After some testing i got to a conclusion, that the only domains that work better at Sedo are casino related. ND is quite poor on these names, giving 0,1-0,2$.

I have had casino/poker clicks up to about $2 at ND. Sedo was only getting my $.10.

tetrapak · 01-20-2006, 07:57 AM

Hm, i have just the opposite experience, strange, i guess it has something to do with the keywords

diddie · 01-20-2006, 08:11 AM

and it depends of advertisers bids too, previous month i had $0.56 clicks for a domain, now only $0.02

fonzie_007 · 01-20-2006, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by tetrapak

Hm, i have just the opposite experience, strange, i guess it has something to do with the keywords

I also probably has something to do with which of the ads on the page someone clicks on. Correct me if I am mistakes, but I believe the ads higher up in the page are worth more than the ones towards the bottom.

DOMiNIC · 01-20-2006, 08:18 AM

Well I moved about 150 domains to Name Drive. I've got to say the number of uniques I am recieving on them is well up from Sedo, however earnings are down with one exception my .be's.

I advise everyone to at least test their .be domains at Name Drive.

floatingworld · 02-25-2006, 08:34 AM

I think its maybe time for me too to check out ND as there appears to be little action on domainspa after testing (though nice landing page) and sedo just bumps along with a little here and there, plus afternic optimization is rather poor......

DOMiNIC · 02-25-2006, 10:09 AM

Well I received three offers on domains I have parked at NameDrive this week.

OK, they are not binding offers, but at least NameDrive insist that the enquirer fills in his email and telephone number and phone number, then forward it directly to you.

This has the advantage that you can check out the players you are dealing with, unlike on Sedo where you have no idea if the player is a domain wholesaler or a rich multinational enduser company.

I also think NameDrives system of forwarding enquiries to you without the enquirer being bound to make an offer will bring more interest with your domains.

12-03-2005, 11:14 PM	#53 (permalink)
sibaong NamePros Fansâ„¢ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NamePros Posts: 2,701	I use ND to park my domain (low $/click keyword), but I still love SEDO coz some of my domain got €2.10/click __________________ Charity Ribbons - Together, We Create A Special World!

12-09-2005, 07:09 AM	#55 (permalink)
diddie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,999	Welcome to the forum ND ! Yes its really a nice place. thanks for replying some of our questions. I will contact you to have that link to my sels page on my parked pages. I hope you will develop that part in future, and for exemple a page that shows some recent sales etc ... __________________ Proxy list: http://theproxi.com 5-6 years old Proxy lists for sale with PR: Prxy.us and iProxylist.com

12-09-2005, 07:13 AM	#56 (permalink)
tetrapak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dubayy / Budapest Posts: 2,903	Very nice post Ed, I like your attitude that you dont want to tell people to stick with ND, if they find Sedo or any other parking system better, its their choice. I can only tell that i have 50+ domains, and ive earned the same amount of money with ND in a week than with Sedo in a month. Also im getting uniques on those domains that never got any on Sedo, it is probably because of what you wrote "but probably have the advantage of being smaller than Sedo and somewhat under Google's radar.". Thanks for your work, and keep it up! __________________ Dubai Marina

12-09-2005, 08:08 AM	#57 (permalink)
NameDriver NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 220	Thanks for the welcome The sales side of things - i.e. stepping up to the plate with Afternic / Sedo-style sales is something that a lot of people are asking for but I can categorically state that it's something we will not be doing in the near future. We are a domain monetization company and want to focus first and foremost on getting that aspect right and as good as possible. You may have seen that we've made a couple of sales on DNJournal too and private brokerage is an area that we are involved in - as well as having good contacts to big buyers of traffic domains, so we are certainly a great place if you are looking to sell your domains at revenue multiples of anything from 6-96 months' revenue. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=142715 I can't deny that it's in our interests for me to say 'test with us and move the non-performers back to Sedo' as without testing, we wouldn't have any users However, it is also absolutely in your guys' interests to do so to. Diersifying reveune streams was something that was very hot at the Delray Beach event in October and it is a very wise policy. I will try and keep my posts more concise in future Ed __________________ www.namedrive.com parking@namedrive.com

12-09-2005, 10:27 AM	#58 (permalink)
diddie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,999	No keep that like that, its great to read something from actors of that industry. And good luck in your entreprise, but i think its already on a good way Chris edit: i just saw the other thread, lets move on it for future discussion about Namedrive __________________ Proxy list: http://theproxi.com 5-6 years old Proxy lists for sale with PR: Prxy.us and iProxylist.com

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12-02-2005, 01:19 PM	#51 (permalink)
domainsdepot NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 120	question... once you park the domains, how can you drive traffic to them? thanks in advanced

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12-10-2005, 08:19 AM	#60 (permalink)
.X. Revolution Calling! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NamePros Avenue Posts: 5,901	I parked 15 names there that are getting significant traffic and ctr's at SedoPro,The landing pages look nice,I have all my names monetized with top Ovt keywords and the content is right on cue with each DN specific to a 1 click landing page.Will post results in the near future.I like testing parking services.

12-10-2005, 09:44 AM	#61 (permalink)
fonzie_007 NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: LLL.us City Posts: 6,328	Thanks for the posts. I will be looking to move some or all of my ~150 domains to ND. I will give it a month or two trial and see how things go. Things at Sedo have been SLOW.... __________________ Feeling achy? · ACL Injury Information · Indian Recipes

12-10-2005, 09:58 AM	#62 (permalink)
Premium Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NA Posts: 3,602	Definately give NameDrive a go, you won't regret it. I am getting lots of $0.75 - $2.00 clicks however you shouldn't expect that. Different keywords, different pay. The optimization is really good, and you get to see what your users are searching for which helps in the optimization a lot! One thing I hope NameDrive adds is more template styles for better optimization (like Skenzo).. Cheers __________________ Need Web Hosting? WebHostingReviews.ca User Reviews & Ratings \| Choose The BEST Host!

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01-19-2006, 12:19 AM	#64 (permalink)
diddie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,999	Namedrive pays on time and well, no fees on paypal transfer from them ! __________________ Proxy list: http://theproxi.com 5-6 years old Proxy lists for sale with PR: Prxy.us and iProxylist.com

01-20-2006, 02:44 AM	#66 (permalink)
smub Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: balkhis.com Posts: 3,158	tough question to ask ... i would'nt really go with SEDO, either Google, or Namedrive i m satisfied with them ... Sedo doesnot record every single oen of your visits ... i hate that __________________ Balkhis - Helpful tips regarding marketing, SEO, Web Design and SEO. Uzzz Productions - Custom Web Designs \| WordPress Beginners Guide

01-20-2006, 02:50 AM	#67 (permalink)
tetrapak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dubayy / Budapest Posts: 2,903	After some testing i got to a conclusion, that the only domains that work better at Sedo are casino related. ND is quite poor on these names, giving 0,1-0,2$. __________________ Dubai Marina

01-20-2006, 07:57 AM	#70 (permalink)
tetrapak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dubayy / Budapest Posts: 2,903	Hm, i have just the opposite experience, strange, i guess it has something to do with the keywords __________________ Dubai Marina

01-20-2006, 08:11 AM	#71 (permalink)
diddie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,999	and it depends of advertisers bids too, previous month i had $0.56 clicks for a domain, now only $0.02 __________________ Proxy list: http://theproxi.com 5-6 years old Proxy lists for sale with PR: Prxy.us and iProxylist.com

01-20-2006, 08:18 AM	#73 (permalink)
DOMiNIC Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,770	Well I moved about 150 domains to Name Drive. I've got to say the number of uniques I am recieving on them is well up from Sedo, however earnings are down with one exception my .be's. I advise everyone to at least test their .be domains at Name Drive.

02-25-2006, 08:34 AM	#74 (permalink)
floatingworld dawnofthefloatingworld Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: nightlesscity Posts: 3,413	I think its maybe time for me too to check out ND as there appears to be little action on domainspa after testing (though nice landing page) and sedo just bumps along with a little here and there, plus afternic optimization is rather poor......

02-25-2006, 10:09 AM	#75 (permalink)
DOMiNIC Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,770	Well I received three offers on domains I have parked at NameDrive this week. OK, they are not binding offers, but at least NameDrive insist that the enquirer fills in his email and telephone number and phone number, then forward it directly to you. This has the advantage that you can check out the players you are dealing with, unlike on Sedo where you have no idea if the player is a domain wholesaler or a rich multinational enduser company. I also think NameDrives system of forwarding enquiries to you without the enquirer being bound to make an offer will bring more interest with your domains.

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