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Old 09-26-2005, 11:16 AM THREAD STARTER               #76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by onspec
...Any other reported sales of numeric domains?
Here is the recent data I have for NNNN domains at dropcatchers:

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Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price
5637.com	09/24/05	Club Drop	$80
3023.com	09/20/05	Club Drop	$160
5475.com	09/15/05	SnapNames	$160
5694.com	09/12/05	SnapNames	$104
6569.com	09/10/05	SnapNames	$122
6055.com	09/03/05	Pool	        $100
8780.com	09/02/05	SnapNames	$172
2281.com	09/01/05	Pool	        $70
3336.net	08/28/05	SnapNames	$60
3537.com	08/28/05	SnapNames	$96
9907.com	08/28/05	SnapNames	$67
2509.com	08/24/05	SnapNames	$61
9507.com	08/17/05	SnapNames	$88
6100.net	08/15/05	SnapNames	$61
5682.com	08/14/05	SnapNames	$61
7257.com	08/14/05	SnapNames	$101
4512.com	08/04/05	SnapNames	$60
0189.com	08/03/05	SnapNames	$99
5454.com	08/03/05	SnapNames	$535
0247.com	08/03/05	SnapNames	$100
3433.net	07/28/05	SnapNames	$60
9548.com	07/27/05	SnapNames	$95
1042.net	07/26/05	SnapNames	$60
5565.net	07/25/05	SnapNames	$60
9659.com	07/24/05	SnapNames	$127
6805.com	07/23/05	SnapNames	$107
0670.com	07/22/05	SnapNames	$105
7886.com	07/20/05	SnapNames	$131
2880.com	07/18/05	SnapNames	$182
9259.com	07/16/05	SnapNames	$90
1640.net	07/11/05	Pool	        $109
2737.com	07/11/05	SnapNames	$116
9223.com	07/10/05	SnapNames	$104
2474.com	07/07/05	SnapNames	$190
0169.com	07/05/05	SnapNames	$90
1391.com	07/05/05	SnapNames	$160
Unfortunately, I am unable to retrieve most of the past sales at Pool and Club Drop due to limitations in their historical search functions. I can tell you that NNNN.coms continue to be hot and NNNN.nets have seen a drop off in interest. On some days the nets can be caught for $15 at Enom (+ reg fee) without going to reverse auction.

Also on the radar: NNNNN.coms. These 5-digit domains are receiving huge interest as they drop, routinely going for mid to high $XXX. But that's for another thread.
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I agree -- I'm already at $10 plus for September on a few of mine.
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Any idea how many NNNN .org are left out there? Any thoughts as to when they might all be consumed? Thanks.
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Any recent sales info on 4, 5 or 6 n sales? Please post. Thanks.
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It doesn't give a specific amount, but according to enom's drop service the three below closed anywhere from $670 to $13,900. If anyone else has some recent data, I'd be interested in it also. Thx in advance

Bids range from 670 pts. to 13900 pts.

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Marchex owns something like 77,0000 NNNNN .coms and .nets - they are going after all populated zip codes. I think they have about 44,000 .coms and the rest .nets. So I would keep that in mind when judging the demand for NNNNN names ... it's not like tons of people are investing in them, it's just Marchex buying them up. The only reason other people are regging them is in hopes of getting a later offer from Marchex LOL.
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If the final bids for the 10308 and 10313 were north of 10k, it could be because those are very useful zip codes that may have ended up in Marchex' stable.
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Originally Posted by onspec
Any recent sales info on 4, 5 or 6 n sales? Please post. Thanks.
I've been a bit lazy in tracking sales, so I missed a few NNNN results. But here is some recent data I have for NNNN domains at dropcatchers:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/104068-numb3rs-what-s-deal-4-digit.html

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Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price
6759.com	12/12/05	Club Drop	$110
9936.com	12/12/05	Club Drop	$1,530
4816.com	12/12/05	Club Drop	$140
7182.com	12/04/05	SnapNames	$210
4203.com	12/03/05	SnapNames	$145
6579.com	12/03/05	SnapNames	$210
6132.com	12/02/05	SnapNames	$138
7314.com	12/01/05	SnapNames	$138
7726.com	11/25/05	SnapNames	$166
0521.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$190
3826.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$154
6154.com	11/22/05	SnapNames	$173
3346.com	11/20/05	SnapNames	$106
9658.com	11/20/05	SnapNames	$101
0508.com	11/17/05	SnapNames	$111
3404.com	11/17/05	SnapNames	$85
6442.com	11/17/05	SnapNames	$85
8495.com	11/17/05	SnapNames	$111
9854.com	11/17/05	SnapNames	$85
4021.com	11/16/05	SnapNames	$105
3305.com	11/15/05	SnapNames	$167
0286.com	11/13/05	SnapNames	$101
5197.com	11/13/05	SnapNames	$101
9396.com	11/11/05	SnapNames	$195
0160.com	11/11/05	SnapNames	$101
8926.com	11/09/05	SnapNames	$145
0821.com	11/08/05	SnapNames	$101
3982.com	11/07/05	SnapNames	$101
The notable sale is 9936.com going for $1,530 at Enom's Club Drop. I'm not exactly sure why this domain went for so high, but I have a hunch the winner could have gotten it for a lot less. I remember seeing the domain pre-bid for this amount at Enom, instead of the standard $30 to $60 that most people enter.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

Even though this is the four digit number thread, I did mention NNNNN.coms previously. Here's some recent sales data that I have collected for these, all at SnapNames:

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Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price
83858.com	11/28/05	SnapNames	$100
14624.com	11/25/05	SnapNames	$365
43701.com	11/25/05	SnapNames	$85
67333.com	11/25/05	SnapNames	$100
95955.com	11/25/05	SnapNames	$160
66538.com	11/24/05	SnapNames	$310
91618.com	11/24/05	SnapNames	$310
08873.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$310
52066.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$90
53508.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$100
95018.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$160
98288.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$100
99116.com	11/23/05	SnapNames	$100
67401.com	11/22/05	SnapNames	$525
95126.com	11/21/05	SnapNames	$825
19066.com	11/21/05	SnapNames	$100
95139.com	11/21/05	SnapNames	$160
22932.com	11/20/05	SnapNames	$72
94110.com	11/20/05	SnapNames	$160
66119.com	11/19/05	SnapNames	$270
10156.com	11/19/05	SnapNames	$343
11369.com	11/19/05	SnapNames	$254
38328.com	11/19/05	SnapNames	$80
94170.com	11/19/05	SnapNames	$343
16828.com	11/15/05	SnapNames	$105
32568.com	11/15/05	SnapNames	$105
78721.com	11/15/05	SnapNames	$160
13078.com	11/14/05	SnapNames	$170
92123.com	11/14/05	SnapNames	$260
12777.com	11/14/05	SnapNames	$85
35653.com	11/14/05	SnapNames	$95
60504.com	11/13/05	SnapNames	$360
73111.com	11/13/05	SnapNames	$360
91770.com	11/13/05	SnapNames	$360
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Thanks Pax. Would still like to know what the 10308 and 10313 went for.
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...Thread bookmarked so I can come back in 6 months and see what happened ...
Well it's been six months since the original post and the roller coaster ride for NNNNs has taken us to 2006. First things first, let's discuss GoldKey. For awhile last summer, they were amazing for domain owners, and in particular numerical domain owners. But the success was fleeting. To summarize what happened, I'll quote from DNjournal.com's recent State of the Industry article:
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"Another interesting development was the rise and fall of GoldKey.com, a parking service that attempted Search Engine Optimization (SEO) on a massive scale. While it worked for a couple of months, the two major search engines changed their listing algorithms and sent the millions of automatically generated extra pages packing. GoldKey continues as a significant parking service, but the amount of traffic that they monetize and revenue generated is down sharply from their peak in the early summer. If nothing else, GoldKey showed many domainers the value of Search Engine Optimization when it comes time to develop domains...
For me it's back to basics for parking my numerical domains. I'm having some success with some of them at Trafficz (I just recently started testing them there so my data is limited), but the majority of them are now back with Sedo. Using the advice of fellow NPer rocketfly, I first attempt to set my keywords to "gamble." For some of them, Sedo obliges and the CPC is nice. For the rest, I enter "win" as the keyword - which pays less, but seems to do alright as an alternative. I'll keep moving my digit domains around and if I find a better solution I will share the results.

NNNN.com domains are still going strong in expired name auctions. All of them that delete are still regularly caught at Pool.com, Snapnames.com and Enom.com's Club Drop and enter private auctions. Closing prices remain in the high $XX to low $XXX range, where they have been since last summer.

The NNNN.net domains have seen their popularity spike and has now come back down. Although all possible 10,000 combinations for 4-digit dot net domains are still taken, interest for these names that expire is not as strong as it was in the summer of 2005. A few of them are backordered at Snap and Pool, but most are taken at Club Drop for the minimum $15 bid or hand registered after the drop.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

The story with NNNN.info domains is interesting. Due to the large Afilias promotion for free .Info domains and the subsequent registration of around a million domains by Enom (Sipence), everyone expected a large number of .infos to expire without renewal last year. Back on July 7th, there were 3,327 NNNN.info domains available to register. Today, that number has jumped to 5,162. All things considered, this niche has held up well. If other registrars (like Directi, RegisterFly, and DomainState) continue to have low priced new .info registration specials, we may see some more of these being grabbed.

I haven't really followed NNNN.org domains at all. I do know that there are less of these available today to register than there were last summer. Here's a chart with updated figures:
Number of Domains available to Register (as of pre-drop on 1/8/06)
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0000 - 0999	0	0	642	495
1000 - 1999	0	0	217	0
2000 - 2999	0	0	147	3
3000 - 3999	0	0	136	1
4000 - 4999	0	0	769	5
5000 - 5999	0	0	827	6
6000 - 6999	0	0	583	6
7000 - 7999	0	0	390	537
8000 - 8999	0	0	791	749
9000 - 9999	0	0	660	805
TOTALS   	0	0	5162	2607
I'll pass along anything new that I find out - when I find it out.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

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Great update with statistics. You remind me of the rush for 3-char .com domains

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

Any update on the number of available 5-digit dot coms (NNNNN.com's) ?
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Acroplex. You should note that there are no more NN00 .orgs .nets .infos .coms...
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Any update on the number of available 5-digit dot coms (NNNNN.com's) ?
40857 are available.
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40857 are available.
Thanks for the update on the number of available NNNNN.com domains, Theo.

Also, timmaay has made lists for everyone of available NNNN.org and NNNN.info domains:

available NNNN.org
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A couple of people have asked me recently to update NNNN.com sales. Here is the recent data I have for 4-digit dot com (NNNN.com) domains at dropcatchers, since the last update in December:
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Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price
7595.com	12/13/05	Club Drop	$110
4522.com	12/16/05	Club Drop	$120
5593.com	12/16/05	SnapNames	$117
3582.com	12/17/05	Club Drop	$120
3372.com	12/22/05	Club Drop	$120
5459.com	12/23/05	Club Drop	$80
6107.com	12/23/05	Club Drop	$100
4255.com	12/23/05	SnapNames	$104
8976.com	12/23/05	Club Drop	$100
6045.com	01/02/06	SnapNames	$60
4907.com	01/03/06	SnapNames	$60
6874.com	01/05/06	SnapNames	$80
0185.com	01/07/06	SnapNames	$185
6191.com	01/08/06	SnapNames	$128
9469.com	01/10/06	Club Drop	$120
2907.com	01/10/06	SnapNames	$154
1386.com	01/11/06	SnapNames	$241
7552.com	01/11/06	SnapNames	$154
5461.com	01/14/06	Club Drop	$150
4013.com	01/14/06	Club Drop	$140
5542.com	01/18/06	SnapNames	$61
6715.com	01/20/06	Club Drop	$110
5805.com	01/22/06	Club Drop	$110
4132.com	01/27/06	SnapNames	$298
4839.com	01/28/06	Club Drop	$100
3769.com	01/31/06	Club Drop	$120+ (ends in 4 hrs.)
It is nice that Enom finally expanded their Auction History reporting. Now I can go back and see all the Club Drop closing prices and not be limited to a finite number of recent auctions.

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I continue to get requests for recent sales data, so I will try to update this thread once a month with reported sales. Here are the sales I was able track in February 2006 for 4-digit dot com (NNNN.com) domains at dropcatchers:

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Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price
4991.com	02/01/06	Club Drop	$60
0548.com	02/04/06	SnapNames	$313
5968.com	02/04/06	SnapNames	$105
2784.com	02/05/06	Pool	        $80
0050.com	02/06/06	Club Drop	$180
0080.com	02/06/06	Pool	        $420
0040.com	02/06/06	Club Drop	$160
0030.com	02/06/06	SnapNames	$370
6576.com	02/07/06	SnapNames	$115
3895.com	02/07/06	SnapNames	$105
3947.com	02/07/06	SnapNames	$100
5789.com	02/10/06	Club Drop	$120
6783.com	02/12/06	Club Drop	$140
6692.com	02/15/06	SnapNames	$130
9601.com	02/17/06	SnapNames	$61
5570.com	02/19/06	SnapNames	$160
9106.com	02/20/06	Club Drop	$90
7936.com	02/20/06	Club Drop	$120
7706.com	02/20/06	Club Drop	$120
6731.com	02/20/06	SnapNames	$132
9544.com	02/22/06	Pool	        $80
7619.com	02/22/06	Pool	        $80
2778.com	02/23/06	Club Drop	$170
7026.com	02/24/06	SnapNames	$142
9756.com	02/25/06	SnapNames	$175
7736.com	02/27/06	SnapNames	$210
4469.com	02/27/06	SnapNames	$208
6467.com	02/28/06	Club Drop	$140
7397.com	02/28/06	Pool	        $70
Over the last year or two, these domains have been shifting into stronger hands. As a result we are seeing less and less expire, and it is getting easier to track the decreasing number of auction results. I expect the supply will continue to get tighter and tighter going forward.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

Notable this past week were a trio of big numerical domain sales. As listed in this week's DNjournal.com sales report 62.com sold for $30,000, 512.com sold for $15,000 and 267.com sold for $14,500.

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