NUMB3RS: What’s the deal with 4-Digit Domains (NNNN)? - Page 3

pratiknaik · 07-21-2005, 02:20 AM

I bought my first NNNN

It's 8700.org

Thanks,
Pratik

equity78 · 07-21-2005, 07:15 AM

NICE name

paxton · 07-22-2005, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Prosper with 8 88 888 88888... Chinese is probably one of the very few languages where several different words meaning different things can have identical pronunciation...

Feng Shui and Chinese Numerology... The Chinese have always had a deep interest in numerology. For them, numbers are not only for calculations, they have a magical quality of their own, in the sense that they can affect human life and destiny in some way. In Feng Shui, nature is also considered magical and since nature can be expressed through numbers, Feng Shui and numerology are closely related...

Thank you for sharing those two articles, equity78. Much to learn from both of them.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/104068-numb3rs-what-s-deal-4-digit.html

Originally Posted by RADiSTAR

44,740 names in the last count.

Theo, I appreciate the new count. Keep us updated.

Originally Posted by pratiknaik

I bought my first NNNN

...It's 8700.org...

Nice pickup.

**Michelle** · 07-22-2005, 09:05 AM

I have a 4 letter .com but no numbers as yet

equity78 · 07-22-2005, 11:04 AM

all nnnn.com are regged

harpo · 07-22-2005, 08:05 PM

Showing Fri 07/01/05 12:00:00 AM EDT to Fri 07/22/05 12:00:00 AM EDT
Visitors Clicks CTR EPC RPM Earnings

2005-07-10 Sun 15
2005-07-11 Mon 33
2005-07-12 Tue 44
2005-07-13 Wed 39
2005-07-14 Thu 72
2005-07-15 Fri 39
2005-07-16 Sat 57
2005-07-17 Sun 34
2005-07-18 Mon 80
2005-07-19 Tue 78
2005-07-20 Wed 83
2005-07-21 Thu 90
Total 664 2 0.3 0.02 0.07 0.05
Average 31.6 0.0 0.00

i wanted to share the states for the last 10 days on my nnnn.coms
i have 25 of them all pointing to dns of goldkey as you see every day the
page views are getting higher and higher......
i have made a whopping 5 cents but as the saying goes knowlegde is true wealth.

now my question is to paxton what optimization have you done through golkeys interface to your nnnn.com
to get a higher click through, now the ones i have were just ones that i hand regged about 16 months ago........so im interested in trying to get back at least the 5.99 that i paid for them as the accrue strength in the domain world

and my second question is ??/ does anyone have success in nnn.info and nnn.biz domains in the parking field i actually have quite a few for some projects but have it on hold due to time restaint so would like to try to park them in the mean time...???? please share your info if you have any on this subject

paxton · 07-25-2005, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by harpo

...now my question is to paxton what optimization have you done through golkeys interface to your nnnn.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068
to get a higher click through, now the ones i have were just ones that i hand regged about 16 months ago........so im interested in trying to get back at least the 5.99 that i paid for them as the accrue strength in the domain world...

Hi Harpo. I have done no manual optimization. One of the things I like about GK is the DomainMatch tool. This will pick the best keywords for your names. For NNNN's, it's difficult to pick keywords because most of the visitors are type-in surfers from non-Western countries. You can always manually examine the clicks for each domain and see exactly what ads your surfers are clicking on, and submit an optimization request based on these results.

Like I said previously, not all of my NNNN domains get traffic and/or clicks. And, unfortunately, Goldkey has experienced some growing pains this past week. Their system has been down off and on for the past few days, but the good news is they have corrected the problem and are compensating domain owners by paying an additional 15% revenue to all partners for the entire month of July. That is one of the best reimbursements I have ever seen from a publisher program.

TLDnetworks · 07-26-2005, 05:22 PM

Anyone notice the high number of 5 number dot com's dropping in the next few days?

Acroplex · 07-26-2005, 08:34 PM

44,453 nnnnn.com available domains as of today.

equity78 · 09-05-2005, 11:32 AM

Seems people are talking about numbers a lot this is the best thread for the topic.

bm8 · 09-05-2005, 09:13 PM

Thanks for the great article!

onspec · 09-17-2005, 02:28 PM

Some excellent information in this thread. Kudos to Pax and Equity in particular.

I have followed the likes of Worddial for several years. I saw the potential in their generic portals and hopped on the bandwagon and started registering domains that I thought would have future potential.

In earlier posts I outlined my thoughts in support of numeric domains as a viable alternative to accessing web sites on cellular phones and other WAP enabled devices. Some of the key reasons why a company might want to offer their customers and more importantly, their potential customers, the ability to access their web sites via the worlds “third screen” (TV being the first screen, the computer monitor being the second) are:

There are over 1.5 billion cell phones in use around the world, 330 million in China alone. When you look at some of the worldwide Internet user and population statistics identified earlier in this thread, and the number of cell phones in use, it provides a pretty robust outlook for Internet access via cell phone.

Sales of new cell phones are expected to reach 1 billion units ANNUALLY by 2010 (That is only 5 short years away)

Many people, especially in developing countries, will only ever access the Internet by using their cell phones.

Numeric domains are wireless carrier agnostic. That means that you don’t necessarily have be a Vodafone customer or a Sprint/Nextel customer or a Verizon customer to access the content of your mobile web site.

Numeric domains are browser agnostic so it doesn’t matter what browser is pre-installed on your cell phone, you can access the mobile web sites.

Numeric domains are language agnostic. The numbers and the corresponding letters of the alphabet on a cell phone are the same on a Motorola phone in the USA, a Nokia phone in Sweden, A Samsung phone in Korea etc.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

Using numeric domains allows you to reduce the number of keystrokes required to access a mobile web site, thereby reducing the potential for input error, which often leads to user frustration.

When accessing mobile web sites, what do you find easier? Typing www DOT mobile DOT mysite DOT com or 697483. com? (mysite numerically). Most cell phone browsers pre-populate the http:// or the www portion of the URL.

Numeric domains are also device agnostic so it doesn’t matter if you are accessing the mobile web site with a cell phone, a Smart phone or a PDA in all of their various models.

And finally, numeric domains are extremely versatile. There are finite numbers of numeric domains available. Their versatility lies in the fact that you can assign any possible alphabetical equivalent using the combination of letters associated with the number on the cell phone dial pad.

Take 739.com for example. The number 7 on your dial pad could represent any one of the 4 letters P, Q, R or S. The number 3 could represent any one of the 3 letters D, E or F. The same goes for the number 9 which could represent a W, X, Y or Z … your choice.

So in this example 739.com could, among several other choices, represent the word PEW, or it could equally represent the word SEX. And being the crack Domainers that you are, you’d obviously go with ….

The technology that makes this happen is improving daily but don't be alarmed if you run into a few glitches.

Again, most cell phone browsers pre-populate some of the URL, but this is what you should be typing in before pressing “go to”, “send” or “get link”.

Here are a few examples to test out on your cell phone or PDA to see how it works.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

REPEAT: ON your cell phone. Give them a try.

http://3776.com

http://62824.com

http://94554455.com

Cheers

paxton · 09-17-2005, 11:29 PM

onspec,

Excellent information. Thank you for sharing.

onspec · 09-19-2005, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by paxton

onspec,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

Excellent information. Thank you for sharing.

Thanks Pax. This area is getting strong attention from the gamers as they look to put action games and puzzles on cell.

Any other reported sales of numeric domains?

Sam · 09-19-2005, 03:39 PM

Just to let the public know. No more NN000.com or NN0000.com in the wild. This will drive up the price IMO (greatly).

TLDnetworks · 09-19-2005, 04:26 PM

I keep foillowing and hoping... I did reg 6 number domains based on the word dial format including 8253688 (TAKEOUT) even though it's a bit longer than I wanted, I think the potential could be great.

onspec · 09-20-2005, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by westblock

I keep foillowing and hoping... I did reg 6 number domains based on the word dial format including 8253688 (TAKEOUT) even though it's a bit longer than I wanted, I think the potential could be great.

The length is not bad at all. Remember, we are all familiar with inputting 1-800-xxx-yyyy numbers into our phones. The problem will be finding the right application. Most "takeout" is associated with food. However there are thousands of fast food restos all around the world.

You'll find that a huge number of 5 digit numeric domains are owned by ULTSearch (Marchex).

Mobile TV seems to be coming on strong, especially with porn. It's inevitable.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/te...gy/17porn.html

http://www.moconews.net/?p=3540

On your cell enter 53662.com for an example.

I recently regged 25477.com (clips) and 746787.com (shorts). We'll see.

TLDnetworks · 09-20-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by onspec

Most "takeout" is associated with food. However there are thousands of fast food restos all around the world.

Exactly - Thought being a type of portal or directory for takeout food & resturants. Seems like a pretty good fit, but we'll see...

cache · 09-25-2005, 12:14 AM

I think this is a great thread, learned a few new things myself. It covered everything pretty well, I don't think I can add much more solid theories. But I still would like to add or to speculate the following (I am only half joking, but I could be right):
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068

1. human prefers concise expression. The chinese does not have any finite character-based system such as the English 26-base character set, thus the decimal base-10 number system would be a good one to play with.

2. The smallerest (thus rare) complete set of number is the binary number. I bet the binary numbers (the base-2 numbers, total of 16 of them in nnnn.com) can demands a good money. Another often used number in engineering is hex number (based-16 numbers), these are numbers represented by 0-9 and A-F. I bet on average, the letter-number mixed domain name which is a hex number sells more than a non-hex numbers (non-hex numbers include letter G-Z).

3. the americans want to be lawyers rather than engineers, thus they prefer letter-domain rather than number-domains

Xyzer · 09-25-2005, 12:26 AM

I dont thinik that 4 digit domains are worth much because there is so many possible combinations,

Acroplex · 09-25-2005, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Steven12

I dont thinik that 4 digit domains are worth much because there is so many possible combinations,

Funny how all the .com and .net NNNN's are registered. There are only 10,000 combinations per TLD. (0000-9999).

black_d0s · 09-25-2005, 01:54 AM

thanks for the list ill also look in to that and paste what i find

MCDomains · 09-25-2005, 05:49 PM

Great post!!

I guess the 3971.net I just bought for $13 was a deal...
I like the number domains... I'll have to do some more checking on the .org's.

Thanks for the info!

Acroplex · 09-25-2005, 05:54 PM

Forget about the .ORGs - there is no way to check them in a brute-force manner. PIR only allows 4 checks per minute. That's 41 hours to check all 10000 combinations.

JH · 09-26-2005, 10:05 AM

a very nice post

07-21-2005, 02:20 AM	#51 (permalink)
pratiknaik Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lost somewhere in a stack of queues.. Posts: 1,200	I bought my first NNNN It's 8700.org Thanks, Pratik __________________ Ruby on Rails Developer - http://m.onkey.org

07-21-2005, 07:15 AM	#52 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	NICE name __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today

07-22-2005, 11:04 AM	#55 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	all nnnn.com are regged __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today

07-22-2005, 08:05 PM	#56 (permalink)
harpo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Source Posts: 1,045	Showing Fri 07/01/05 12:00:00 AM EDT to Fri 07/22/05 12:00:00 AM EDT Visitors Clicks CTR EPC RPM Earnings 2005-07-10 Sun 15 2005-07-11 Mon 33 2005-07-12 Tue 44 2005-07-13 Wed 39 2005-07-14 Thu 72 2005-07-15 Fri 39 2005-07-16 Sat 57 2005-07-17 Sun 34 2005-07-18 Mon 80 2005-07-19 Tue 78 2005-07-20 Wed 83 2005-07-21 Thu 90 Total 664 2 0.3 0.02 0.07 0.05 Average 31.6 0.0 0.00 i wanted to share the states for the last 10 days on my nnnn.coms i have 25 of them all pointing to dns of goldkey as you see every day the page views are getting higher and higher...... i have made a whopping 5 cents but as the saying goes knowlegde is true wealth. now my question is to paxton what optimization have you done through golkeys interface to your nnnn.com to get a higher click through, now the ones i have were just ones that i hand regged about 16 months ago........so im interested in trying to get back at least the 5.99 that i paid for them as the accrue strength in the domain world and my second question is ??/ does anyone have success in nnn.info and nnn.biz domains in the parking field i actually have quite a few for some projects but have it on hold due to time restaint so would like to try to park them in the mean time...???? please share your info if you have any on this subject __________________ ppc.us cia.info LL3.com Last edited by harpo; 07-22-2005 at 08:14 PM.

07-26-2005, 05:22 PM	#58 (permalink)
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07-22-2005, 09:05 AM	#54 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,046	I have a 4 letter .com but no numbers as yet

07-26-2005, 08:34 PM	#59 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,862	44,453 nnnnn.com available domains as of today.

09-05-2005, 11:32 AM	#60 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	Seems people are talking about numbers a lot this is the best thread for the topic. __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today

09-05-2005, 09:13 PM	#61 (permalink)
bm8 NamePros Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 108	Thanks for the great article! __________________ my domains for sale: www.dnpond.com 5656977@gmail.com

09-17-2005, 02:28 PM	#62 (permalink)
onspec NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N of the 49th Posts: 288	Some excellent information in this thread. Kudos to Pax and Equity in particular. I have followed the likes of Worddial for several years. I saw the potential in their generic portals and hopped on the bandwagon and started registering domains that I thought would have future potential. In earlier posts I outlined my thoughts in support of numeric domains as a viable alternative to accessing web sites on cellular phones and other WAP enabled devices. Some of the key reasons why a company might want to offer their customers and more importantly, their potential customers, the ability to access their web sites via the worlds “third screen” (TV being the first screen, the computer monitor being the second) are: There are over 1.5 billion cell phones in use around the world, 330 million in China alone. When you look at some of the worldwide Internet user and population statistics identified earlier in this thread, and the number of cell phones in use, it provides a pretty robust outlook for Internet access via cell phone. Sales of new cell phones are expected to reach 1 billion units ANNUALLY by 2010 (That is only 5 short years away) Many people, especially in developing countries, will only ever access the Internet by using their cell phones. Numeric domains are wireless carrier agnostic. That means that you don’t necessarily have be a Vodafone customer or a Sprint/Nextel customer or a Verizon customer to access the content of your mobile web site. Numeric domains are browser agnostic so it doesn’t matter what browser is pre-installed on your cell phone, you can access the mobile web sites. Numeric domains are language agnostic. The numbers and the corresponding letters of the alphabet on a cell phone are the same on a Motorola phone in the USA, a Nokia phone in Sweden, A Samsung phone in Korea etc. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068 Using numeric domains allows you to reduce the number of keystrokes required to access a mobile web site, thereby reducing the potential for input error, which often leads to user frustration. When accessing mobile web sites, what do you find easier? Typing www DOT mobile DOT mysite DOT com or 697483. com? (mysite numerically). Most cell phone browsers pre-populate the http:// or the www portion of the URL. Numeric domains are also device agnostic so it doesn’t matter if you are accessing the mobile web site with a cell phone, a Smart phone or a PDA in all of their various models. And finally, numeric domains are extremely versatile. There are finite numbers of numeric domains available. Their versatility lies in the fact that you can assign any possible alphabetical equivalent using the combination of letters associated with the number on the cell phone dial pad. Take 739.com for example. The number 7 on your dial pad could represent any one of the 4 letters P, Q, R or S. The number 3 could represent any one of the 3 letters D, E or F. The same goes for the number 9 which could represent a W, X, Y or Z … your choice. So in this example 739.com could, among several other choices, represent the word PEW, or it could equally represent the word SEX. And being the crack Domainers that you are, you’d obviously go with …. The technology that makes this happen is improving daily but don't be alarmed if you run into a few glitches. Again, most cell phone browsers pre-populate some of the URL, but this is what you should be typing in before pressing “go to”, “send” or “get link”. Here are a few examples to test out on your cell phone or PDA to see how it works. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068 REPEAT: ON your cell phone. Give them a try. http://3776.com http://62824.com http://94554455.com Cheers

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09-19-2005, 03:39 PM	#65 (permalink)
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09-19-2005, 04:26 PM	#66 (permalink)
TLDnetworks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 2,348	I keep foillowing and hoping... I did reg 6 number domains based on the word dial format including 8253688 (TAKEOUT) even though it's a bit longer than I wanted, I think the potential could be great. __________________ ~ ThemeParade.com ~ New WordPress Themes Everyday

09-25-2005, 12:14 AM	#69 (permalink)
cache Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Goblin Wars Zone & California Posts: 4,451	I think this is a great thread, learned a few new things myself. It covered everything pretty well, I don't think I can add much more solid theories. But I still would like to add or to speculate the following (I am only half joking, but I could be right): ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=104068 1. human prefers concise expression. The chinese does not have any finite character-based system such as the English 26-base character set, thus the decimal base-10 number system would be a good one to play with. 2. The smallerest (thus rare) complete set of number is the binary number. I bet the binary numbers (the base-2 numbers, total of 16 of them in nnnn.com) can demands a good money. Another often used number in engineering is hex number (based-16 numbers), these are numbers represented by 0-9 and A-F. I bet on average, the letter-number mixed domain name which is a hex number sells more than a non-hex numbers (non-hex numbers include letter G-Z). 3. the americans want to be lawyers rather than engineers, thus they prefer letter-domain rather than number-domains __________________ LaFrance Hods Raids Trik OXSI GoblinWars IQx yPortal Idel enlo Kitu Hytu Albums eMontage Cereal Tarf MDTalks Toch TV vald hosy Bagr Glem wolk corg ypen DiTV

09-25-2005, 12:26 AM	#70 (permalink)
Xyzer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United Kindom Posts: 1,502	I dont thinik that 4 digit domains are worth much because there is so many possible combinations,

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09-25-2005, 05:54 PM	#74 (permalink)
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09-26-2005, 10:05 AM	#75 (permalink)
JH NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 533	a very nice post __________________ Joe or Joseph ???

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